Facts the only thing is is that system is starting to wear thin possible fail someday. There's a huge gap between the haves and the have nots out there than opposed to here. Not to mention Covid caused their troubles to worsen
European Soccer Clubs create new league
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MK25toLife
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#KROENKEOUT
mastermind
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You have to pay a billion to enter into the American cartel of sport leagues. It’s absolutely not fair and balanced.
Apprentice
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Don’t think anyone ever said it was but this xenophobic behavior by soccer fans annoying and easy to see why it translates to in field racism
Owners of multiple nationalities were pushin for this, soccer fans using this is an opportunity to point out the issues with the American system, if not for the extremely unleveled tier system UEFA wouldn’t had found themselves in this position
What a stupid post. And want number 1 draft pick would want to be drafted in the loser league and maybe not get to play in the NBA for years ?
Dorian Breh
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Abolish the draft dumb ass. Like I said in an earlier post.
None of these draft picks wanna go to these bum ass franchises anyway.
If you want a young prospect you gotta compete for them.
except teams are content being midtable or even below, just being in the premier league as a watford or burnley etc. is
and fans are ok with that
Dreamchaser
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Religion > capitalism
These owners thought these fans in Europe were causal soccer fans.
These owners thought these fans in Europe were causal soccer fans.
The gap between the haves and the have nots is by design. They intentionally impoverished the rest of the teams around them so they can pillage them. These same Super League clubs were the same ones (minus Manchester City) who lobbied UEFA and their domestic federations to implement the Financial Fair Play system which effectively discourages investment in clubs because they didn't want to compete in the transfer market anymore.
In England the Premier League only exists because Liverpool, Manchester United and Arsenal came together and influenced the rest of the First Division teams to break away from the Football League so they'd have to share less money with the teams below.
People look at Leicester City winning the Premier League as some miracle scenario but Derby County, Nottingham Forest and Blackburn were doing the same thing exactly 1 generation ago. Aston Villa and Everton were not only championship winners domestically but contenders and winners in Europe too. Leeds built a championship winning team within 2 seasons of being promoted from the Second Division. Newcastle got promoted, finished 3rd in their first Premier League season and spent the bulk of the next decade as title contenders and Champions League participants. If you're old enough to remember Jordan (which seemingly 4/5 of this board is) then your English counterpart is old enough to remember all of this or at the very least have a sibling who could. Now there's an academy system where the academies of the top teams can sign players from lesser teams for below their market value. Parity existed these guys have done everything possible to take it away. You've been conned into thinking that these guys ran out of competition but they've spent decades colluding to suppress it.
In Spain and Italy the TV deals were heavily skewed towards these teams and the reason why they were even in those positions was because Milan were owned by a media company owner and Juventus and Inter have been toys for billionaires. Inter were also a toy for the fascist government. Even with those protections they were still match fixing and influencing referees. They were still cheating to hold other teams down.
The Spanish teams are instruments of state propaganda. Both Atletico and Real Madrid enjoyed state protection and interference at different points in time. Barcelona has had both money and political influence pumped into and used for their benefit by Catalan businessmen and politicians because they're seen as the sporting symbol for Catalonia. These teams are where they are because they've been propped up for decades for reasons that have nothing to do with football.
Even if you bring up UEFA corruption these teams are beneficiaries of UEFA corruption from the reformatting of the European Cup into the Champions League to the number of slots available per nation to the qualification and seeding process to Financial Fair Play UEFA has bent over time and time again to make sure these guys make money and keep their places now they just want to cut the middleman out. UEFA corruption has been mutually beneficial. The only problem now is the fact that they aren't guaranteed to qualify for the UEFA Champions League every year because teams in their domestic leagues are too competitive and keeping them away from the money. Juventus are the only Italian Super League team that have qualified consistently for the last decade, Milan and Inter (except for this season) had been left behind and been irrelevant. The Spanish teams are consistently qualifying but the gap between them and the next team (Sevilla) is closing. Manchester City are the only English team in the Super League that qualified every year for the last decade the other 5 all spent times outside of it and Arsenal haven't even been in it for 5 years. Half of them aren't doing it on the field anymore that's why they were trying to change the rules of the game yet again.
You're coming in waaaaaaaay after the fact and saying no wonder these clubs wanted to team up just look at everyone else the system doesn't work but the last 80+ years (depending on the country) have been spent with businessmen, governments and administrators bending the system to benefit these teams. They're looters who were trying to run away and block any other team from catching up.
Lakerman0834
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EPL going to Peacock and then CL going to CBS was a dumb move that won’t bring in the casuals. If they worried about money
Goat poster
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In the Euro system there are no draft picks.
The team offering the most money gets the player.
*They do a much better job at developing players from a young age, with the clubs academies over there though.
they gotta lure the casuals in. they need to do this by removing both from behind paywalls. people are always looking for something to watch weekend mornings.
Then after a decade they can start to put games behind a paywall.
i see @Apprentice in here mad that people are hating the american sports model. i agree though uefa FA's fifa allowed this moment to come. becuase they are far from perfect and proven to be corrupt.
BUUUUUUUT. if football was to move to that model. you would see less fans show up to games and less money getting transferred to mid and low level teams.
football need to fix the gap between the have and have nots
with that said though im never trying to see the american model in football. i dont like that my team can not win for years on and the owners still get money even if fans dont show up. If there was relegation fans of poor teams would actually show up in hopes their team stays up. but again that will never happen because our sports arent even organized here for proper development of these kids buts thats another story
Facts. Ya'll remember the Fox Soccer Channel They showed everybody in the EPL. Big dogs plus mid and lower table matches every week.
Even got to see Jozy Alitdore when he was at Hull City. It was a great time. My Direct TV package had Fox Soccer Channel and Bein Sports which showed La Liga and Seria A from top to bottom with Ray Hudson calling the matches
Things have sure changed. EPL went to NBC Sports and they're closing shop. Gotta have Peacock and you have to tune into a Spanish channel to catch a Champions League match. Soccer is real sparse and baron on American tv now. Its all about finding a link to a match now