Eurogamer: The death of the console exclusive is inevitable….

[MeachTheMonster]

thanks for the time. It's been super slow at work this week. PS5=exclusive machine

 

[Volt]

this thread still goin?

Meach is on his disingenuous bullshyt again

I can read You’re the one that said this.
Which makes no sense if the markets are separate as you stated above

The markets are separate because building a gaming PC is an entirely different investment than buying a console.

If you do have a PC that's capable of running current-gen games though, there aren't a lot of reasons to spend more cash buying an inferior piece of hardware, another copy of the game, and paying for online. It doesn't make sense.

PCs straight-up blows consoles out of the water with the right investment, you could argue that you don't need a Switch if you're not walking around with it and you have a PC that can emulate it. The catch is that it's more expensive to build one, so obviously it's not geared towards the same market.

I personally disagree with separating the markets like you are here. People like to play their games across all types of different devices.

The only reason to split the markets up like you did here is to preserve some semblance of the console wars that drove gaming for 30 years.

Today that stuff just doesn’t matter to the overwhelming majority of gamers.

And that's why you're misinterpreting what I'm saying. To you, there's no difference. To me, each device has unique traits, and depending on a person's needs/wants, one is more desirable than the other.

shyt, if I wanna play the Witcher 3 with the best available graphics and mods, you can be damn sure I ain't firing up that Switch. It's just common sense. Y'all keep bashing the Switch over it being severely underpowered, but when it comes to defining target audiences, we're all supposed to sing Kumbaya and say that every little shytbox is the same. It doesn't work that way, breh!

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Meach is on his disingenuous bullshyt again


The markets are separate because building a gaming PC is an entirely different investment than buying a console.

Yes kinda, but those lines are being blurred with handhelds and affordable prebuilts.
You don’t need to be a computer scientist to game on PC. Which is why the Pc market continues to grow and the console market continues to shrink.

If you do have a PC that's capable of running current-gen games though, there aren't a lot of reasons to spend more cash buying an inferior piece of hardware, another copy of the game, and paying for online. It doesn't make sense.

I agree. but i do think there are reasons to still buy and play consoles over PC

PCs straight-up blows consoles out of the water with the right investment, you could argue that you don't need a Switch if you're not walking around with it and you have a PC that can emulate it. The catch is that it's more expensive to build one, so obviously it's not geared towards the same market.

No arguments from me here

And that's why you're misinterpreting what I'm saying. To you, there's no difference. To me, each device has unique traits, and depending on a person's needs/wants, one is more desirable than the other.

Well if switch is its own market
PC is it’s own market
Mobile is it’s own marjet

Lumping up playstation and xbox as sharing a market doesn’t hold up.

I think they all have their own traits and advantages but they are still all a part of the gaming market.

People expect to play a game of fortnight on their iphone, then pick it up on their pc, then play a couple matches with their friends on playstation.

The “gaming” market is no longer driven by exclusive software.

People buy hardware for other reasons and play the games as they come

shyt, if I wanna play the Witcher 3 with the best available graphics and mods, you can be damn sure I ain't firing up that Switch. It's just common sense. Y'all keep bashing the Switch over it being severely underpowered, but when it comes to defining target audiences, we're all supposed to sing Kumbaya and say that every little shytbox is the same. It doesn't work that way, breh!

like i said it’s fine to feel the markets are different,

Just keep that same energy over the course of your rhetoric.

 

[winb83]

The reality is you have to grow your numbers year over year. PlayStation has never sold more units than the PlayStation 2 and add up the numbers between Xbox and PlayStation since that generation and it's peaked at about 180ish million units sold combined every time. The PS4 and PS5 sales are overall pretty close. The install base is not expanding which when prices keep going up will limit growth. The only way to raise numbers is to grow the base, find more customers elsewhere, or raise prices.

The same thing that lead them to putting their games on PC at all when 10 years ago fans would laugh you out of the room if you said that would happen is the same thing that's going to lead them to a Day 1 on PC strategy. Now that might be opening a PlayStation Store on PC that's a competitor to Epic and Steam or it may be putting their games on those places but the drive to grow is going to push them to a day 1 PC strategy. The question is when not if. It's simply the easiest way to grow the install base.

One business model doesn't work forever and the walled garden approach in console gaming is showing it's limits. I don't think it'll be tomorrow but inside a decade I can see them doing it easily.