Hellll no, Webber wasn't close to Nowitzki. The perception of Dirk changing so dramatically is b/c people weren't paying attention to how damn good the dude was BEFORE 2011. It's really dumb how much a title/FMVP change how people view a player.
ESPN Top 10 PFs ever.
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People love that "2011 changed how people saw Dirk" excuse. But folks that watch Dirk know that he plays his best in the playoffs sans 07. His 2011 playoffs numbers aren't different from any other year. But folks wanna keep acting like 2011 is the first time Dirk balled in the playoffs.
King Biko
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Webber just wasn't on that level 2 me
is the center list out yet?
and are these just nba lists?
cuz i dont see any mentions of connie hawkins. i forgot to add him in my initial list myself. edited to #7.
edit: i just peeped @Art Barr's post about hawkins. props. beat me to it.
webber is a lock for hall of fame. its just a matter of when.
theres no nba hall of fame. so even if youre on the fence concerning his nba career, it doesnt matter.
that dallas mavericks squad was the deepest team of this decade. they had dudes who mightve been on injured reserve that year that have started games for teams recently. and best of all, they were big down low, which has always been the achilles heel for miami, ESPECIALLY that 1st year where they were not an all-time team like youre claiming.
the idea that dirk won that ring by himself is the product of media cism.
and jason terry was the x-factor of that series, especially in the crunch.
this.
every white player thats top 10 caliber at their positions got bumped up 2 or 3 spots.
and white players on the fence like pau gasol - who isnt top 10 but is good enough for a name-drop, got bumped into the top 10 anyway, just off gp.
yea.
pound-for-pound, barkley is the best PF.
shawn kemp & sheed wallace are my favorite PFs,
i think kemp isnt being mentioned because his falloff was worse than webber's, and worst of all, kemp didnt have an injury to show for it.
to a midget squad at that.
and are these just nba lists?
cuz i dont see any mentions of connie hawkins. i forgot to add him in my initial list myself. edited to #7.
edit: i just peeped @Art Barr's post about hawkins. props. beat me to it.
webber is a lock for hall of fame. its just a matter of when.
theres no nba hall of fame. so even if youre on the fence concerning his nba career, it doesnt matter.
that dallas mavericks squad was the deepest team of this decade. they had dudes who mightve been on injured reserve that year that have started games for teams recently. and best of all, they were big down low, which has always been the achilles heel for miami, ESPECIALLY that 1st year where they were not an all-time team like youre claiming.
the idea that dirk won that ring by himself is the product of media cism.
and jason terry was the x-factor of that series, especially in the crunch.
this.
every white player thats top 10 caliber at their positions got bumped up 2 or 3 spots.
and white players on the fence like pau gasol - who isnt top 10 but is good enough for a name-drop, got bumped into the top 10 anyway, just off gp.
Niccas forget that Barkley was putting in work in the post as 6'5 PFIf he won a ring he wouldve been the #1
yea.
pound-for-pound, barkley is the best PF.
shawn kemp & sheed wallace are my favorite PFs,
i think kemp isnt being mentioned because his falloff was worse than webber's, and worst of all, kemp didnt have an injury to show for it.
Dirks lone mvp season was lost in a first round playoff exit as a 1 seed
to a midget squad at that.
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Dirk is one of only 4 players in history to average 25ppg and 10rpg in the playoffs.
"struggled to get 7 boards"Sounds like an average KG boxscore these days.
if Carlisle was his coach earlier, he might have gotten another ring or 2..
Black Bolt
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Barkley & KG >>>>>DIrk otherwise the list is cool
There is no way a credible list would have c00n barkley over KG. No fukking way. Barkley went to houston and destroyed that team with his garbage fat ass. KG never been toxic to his team and just like the real legends he stayed in shape while Barkley was 
at the age of 36 while the rest legends like Dirk, TD and KG actually even making it to the all star game.
fukk this list nikka
at the age of 36 while the rest legends like Dirk, TD and KG actually even making it to the all star game.fukk this list nikka
Columbo
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Im takin Dirk And KG over anybody not named Duncan
Karl Malone at number 2? Hell no Isiah Thomas is mad
Karl Malone at number 2? Hell no Isiah Thomas is mad
There is no way a credible list would have c00n barkley over KG. No fukking way. Barkley went to houston and destroyed that team with his garbage fat ass. KG never been toxic to his team and just like the real legends he stayed in shape while Barkley was
fukk this list nikka
just because they made the all-star game at 36, doesnt mean they deserved to be there.
aside from magic johnson, i cant think of any all-star selections that were treated like lifetime achievement awards back in he day.
duncan & dirk done had numerous bullchit selections. KG prolly did too. meanwhile, dudes like demarcus cousins still havnt played in the all-star game.