ESPN list of 60 best CFB QB’s since 2000

[Robert California]

Lamar and Jameis should be higher.

Lamar should be higher bc of the Heisman

Jameis got a Heisman and National Championship.

 

[DropTopDoc]

No they running couldn’t get it obviously. They had no plays under center so they had no power run game. Only finesse runs. Tebow was key cause defenses has to compensate for the pass so it gave them that extra second or 2 to gain east first down. Pretty similar to what tysom hill does for but at a lower level cause he only play qb.

the defense had to prepare for him to throw but also be prepared for him being able to run over them also.

i get the point of the power run game, in particular the qb power run game that urban implemented, i can concede that urban relied on Tim a bunch at 89 carries, and the reasoning behind it, but the rb had a 146 carries too, i know tebow got some gimmies on the goal line, he was apart of the that run game, and a part of the 06 teams success, but i think people are giving him too much credit leak played a large role in the teams success

 

[Ineedmoney504]

i get the point of the power run game, in particular the qb power run game that urban implemented, i can concede that urban relied on Tim a bunch at 89 carries, and the reasoning behind it, but the rb had a 146 carries too, i know tebow got some gimmies on the goal line, he was apart of the that run game, and a part of the 06 teams success, but i think people are giving him too much credit leak played a large role in the teams success

Leak played great for sure. That was his team. I loved leak game tho.

 

[El Bombi]

That 2010 Auburn season was legendary.

 

[TheDarkskinnedDrake]

Jameis should be higher than baker

 

[NobleDrewAli]

Vince Young should be #1. What he did against USC was legendary.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

You know why I’m here. Then to have Mariotta T10 is some bs

So screens and wide open mismatches? He wasn’t throwing into tight windows. Jameis’ anticipatory throws were elite for a college QB

"Threw into tight windows" isn't a defining measure of a superior college career. That's why Winston averaged 14 picks a year in college and Mariota averaged just 4.

The biggest reason Mariota is ahead of Winston is because Mariota had 3 elite years with 3 big bowl wins while Winston had just 2 elite years with only 1 bowl win. And when they faced in the Rose Bowl, Mariota's team won 59-20 despite arguably a worse roster.

What Mariota lacked in "tight windows" he more than made up for with a good enough arm combined with incredible decision-making and athleticism. His top 3 WRs were out in the Florida State game and the o-line was an ER room yet it didn't even matter.

Mariota: 400 yards offense and 3 tds on 44 plays
Winston: 333 yards offense and 1 td on 53 plays

 

[RammerJammer]

That 2011 Auburn season was legendary.

I know, coming off a undefeated season and almost losing to Utah State in the opener, and getting destroyed by Alabama, LSU, and Georgia

 

[RammerJammer]

nikkas arguing over Joe and Mac, both were good and have touch, but when you both have wrs that can erase bad throws or throws that needed more touch because they clearly are superior to competition what are we talking about here

This is true but a lot of other QBs on that list had elite WRs as well.

Baker & Kyler had Hollywood and CeeDee
Tebow had Percy Harvin & #81
Manziel had Mike Evans
Watson had Mike Williams
Trevor had Justyn Ross & Amari Rodgers
Jameis had Kelvin Benjamin

 

[DropTopDoc]

This is true but a lot of other QBs on that list had elite WRs as well.

Baker & Kyler had Hollywood and CeeDee
Tebow had Percy Harvin & #81
Manziel had Mike Evans
Watson had Mike Williams
Trevor had Justyn Ross & Amari Rodgers
Jameis had Kelvin Benjamin

nah, on the manziel part, IMO, i feel like he lifted the team, but yes, i feel like it’s a difference between being a qb on a great team and raising the tide around you


And folks talking about Tebow like he’s some thrower, nikka qb power runned, and screen, and drags all over the place, Tebow was not known for hitting tight windows or nothing

 

[RammerJammer]

nah, on the manziel part, IMO, i feel like he lifted the team, but yes, i feel like it’s a difference between being a qb on a great team and raising the tide around you


And folks talking about Tebow like he’s some thrower, nikka qb power runned, and screen, and drags all over the place, Tebow was not known for hitting tight windows or nothing

Manziel did elevate A&M but still he could just say "fukk it, Evans down there somewhere" if he needed to.

And yeah Tebow wasn't an elite passer by any stretch, his bread and butter was his power running. His style was unique though, awkward throwing motion but that shyt worked in college.

 

[gtj1982]

Vince and Cam should be #1 and #2. Can't see an argument for anyone over them.

 

[calixprynce]

Baker deserves to be #1 as much as anyone else does.

Uou can't make me think a qb with 1 great year is better than a guy with 3 consecutive.

Not his fault out defense was 129th dead last














We're top 20 defense now tho and top 15 coming this year.

nikka u sound stupid . Baker not even better than Kyler

yo OU fan pass should be revoked

 

[El Bombi]

I know, coming off a undefeated season and almost losing to Utah State in the opener, and getting destroyed by Alabama, LSU, and Georgia

You knew what I meant.

 

[El Bombi]

This is true but a lot of other QBs on that list had elite WRs as well.

Baker & Kyler had Hollywood and CeeDee
Tebow had Percy Harvin & #81
Manziel had Mike Evans
Watson had Mike Williams
Trevor had Justyn Ross & Amari Rodgers
Jameis had Kelvin Benjamin

Cam and a bunch of bombs.