Eric Bellinger Says Beyoncé Paved The Way For Artists To Get SongWriting Credits On Songs They Didn’t Write
- Thread starter Big Boss
- Start date
lurker emeritus
low quantity poster
i think it started with janet, madonna, and mariah (to an extent) because i don't think they were writing like that
the producers would use some of their ideas/experiences in certain instances
in other instances, i'm sure some of the legendary producers/songwriters they worked with didn't need help
the producers would use some of their ideas/experiences in certain instances
in other instances, i'm sure some of the legendary producers/songwriters they worked with didn't need help
Fanservice
Bih call me senpai
Nikka what you think “ghostwriting” is 
TELL ME YA CHEESIN FAM?
I walk around a little edgy already
I doubt it started with Beyonce
I don't think Beyonce started it as such but she for sure engages in something that is a common practice
Rev Leon Lonnie Love
damned mine eyes, DAMNED mine eyes!!
Eric Bellinger is very talented and makes good music. Thats all i got 
dora_da_destroyer
Master Baker
It’s not ghostwriting. The song writer is credited, but the artist is taking a piece they don’t deserve as they didn’t write anythingNikka what you think “ghostwriting” is
And not sure if it started with Bey, but she definitely popularized it, this goes way back to her Bootylicious days
*puffy dances across the room and hits the bell sound a couple times then does ad libs
what was dude saying?
what was dude saying?
In The Zone '98
Superstar
If I'm singing it, I need a piece.
darealvelle
Real Talk
Cant knock it. Beyonce like "You can give this track to Christina Milian and keep 100% of the writing credits if you want, but I guarantee you will make more money off me singing it and with me asking 15% of the writing credit than she singing it and you getting 100% of the writing". 
Mafukkas be all against exploration until someone they like is the one exploiting.
lurker emeritus
low quantity poster
co-wrote
which is my point
how many songs do they have where they wrote the song by themselves?
do you really think jam and lewis needed help "co writing?"
i'd question what and how much they did (especially janet and madonna [who you didn't mention])
i wouldn't be surprised if beyonce (who i'm not a big fan of) at times did as much as they did
for example, some people believe vocal arrangements is part of the songwriting process
there's no way to actually prove what any of them really did (see miseducation of lauryn hill)
can lauryn hill do that again and why hasn't she tried (yet)
?my barometer has always been "what did they do by themselves?"
and i always use la and babyface as an example
look at how many songs babyface wrote and produced WITHOUT la reid
then look up how many songs la reid did WITHOUT babyface
that tells me who was doing the heavy lifting in the "co writing" process.