Eric Bellinger Says Beyoncé Paved The Way For Artists To Get SongWriting Credits On Songs They Didn’t Write

[Big Boss]

 

[lurker emeritus]

i think it started with janet, madonna, and mariah (to an extent) because i don't think they were writing like that
the producers would use some of their ideas/experiences in certain instances
in other instances, i'm sure some of the legendary producers/songwriters they worked with didn't need help

 

[Fanservice]

Nikka what you think “ghostwriting” is

 

[TELL ME YA CHEESIN FAM?]

I doubt it started with Beyonce

 

[315]

Exactly why that Led Zeppelin thread is necessary

 

[Roid Jones]

I don't think Beyonce started it as such but she for sure engages in something that is a common practice

 

[Rev Leon Lonnie Love]

Eric Bellinger is very talented and makes good music. Thats all i got

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

Nikka what you think “ghostwriting” is

It’s not ghostwriting. The song writer is credited, but the artist is taking a piece they don’t deserve as they didn’t write anything



And not sure if it started with Bey, but she definitely popularized it, this goes way back to her Bootylicious days

 

[Pseudo]

Nah. Probably one of the Jackson siblings or Madonna

 

[jerzboy]

i think it started with janet, madonna, and mariah (to an extent) because i don't think they were writing like that
the producers would use some of their ideas/experiences in certain instances
in other instances, i'm sure some of the legendary producers/songwriters they worked with didn't need help

Nah, Mariah and Janet wrote their shyt. More specifically their early stuff. It’s another reason Mariah be on folks necks

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

*puffy dances across the room and hits the bell sound a couple times then does ad libs

what was dude saying?

 

[In The Zone '98]

If I'm singing it, I need a piece.

 

[darealvelle]

Cant knock it. Beyonce like "You can give this track to Christina Milian and keep 100% of the writing credits if you want, but I guarantee you will make more money off me singing it and with me asking 15% of the writing credit than she singing it and you getting 100% of the writing".

 

[Sonic Boom of the South]

Mafukkas be all against exploration until someone they like is the one exploiting.

 

[lurker emeritus]

Nah, Mariah and Janet wrote their shyt. More specifically their early stuff. It’s another reason Mariah be on folks necks

co-wrote
which is my point

how many songs do they have where they wrote the song by themselves?
do you really think jam and lewis needed help "co writing?"

i'd question what and how much they did (especially janet and madonna [who you didn't mention])
i wouldn't be surprised if beyonce (who i'm not a big fan of) at times did as much as they did
for example, some people believe vocal arrangements is part of the songwriting process
there's no way to actually prove what any of them really did (see miseducation of lauryn hill)
can lauryn hill do that again and why hasn't she tried (yet) ?

my barometer has always been "what did they do by themselves?"
and i always use la and babyface as an example

look at how many songs babyface wrote and produced WITHOUT la reid
then look up how many songs la reid did WITHOUT babyface
that tells me who was doing the heavy lifting in the "co writing" process.