Enter PBC on Prime - Paramount Global To Shut Down Showtime Sports; Network Will No Longer Broadcast Boxing

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the best fought the best this year and still didn't do record numbers, thats an excuse.

The point is the old Boxing model does not work in the current or even future world of media consumption. Media companies can't even figure out how to keep the books black let alone green. Boxing is simply a causality
Not just that, but I think a lot of boxers have dreams of being floyd coming up, so they protect their record, become a brand, make money motivated decisions.

They'll have to give that dream up going forward and leave money on the table if the sport will advance. The PPV model is hanging by a thread, boxing will at some point need to choose between maximum profit and maximum viewers.
 

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Not just that, but I think a lot of boxers have dreams of being floyd coming up, so they protect their record, become a brand, make money motivated decisions.

They'll have to give that dream up going forward and leave money on the table if the sport will advance. The PPV model is hanging by a thread, boxing will at some point need to choose between maximum profit and maximum viewers.

This lotta these dudes are children of the Floyd era.

I feel there is a fine line in marinating to fight at the best time possible vs get it in ASAP.

IMO Bud vs Spence for Undisputed made the most sense at it results in their best pay day.

With the 135 folks Tank aside lotta dudes could fight now and then we see the Rematch down the line as the loser bounces back and paths lead to something big.

I put tank to the side as he is the oldest of that batch so really it's his era to pick who will be apart of his legacy but the others can all fight and take Ls from each other and still bounce back.

But to the earlier point everyone getting insane paydays isn't sustainable. I`m not saying make em UFC like slaves but there will need to be a middle ground.

I mentioned before these promoters need to get social media/marketing cats on board to build storylines and public personas plus pair em with sponsorships which could supplement the payday.
 

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These behemoth companies washing their hands off these institutions sucks so much.

Showtime dying a slow death is awful to watch.

they shoulda stuck to the licensing game and let the tech companies take the burden of streaming.

Apple could be a dark horse I will say and they got more money than anyone on earth, but Apple has always been linked to potentially buying Disney Access which would mean ESPN and due to proximity TR and I believe TR has a deep library of content too
 

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If we can get weekly/bi weekly cards and Quarterly PPVs loaded top to bottom I would be fine honestly.

Would be god-like.

Problem is no one would want to go on ESPN 2 because you have the UFC cards as well and you would literally have the schedule completely packed.
 

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Would be god-like.

Problem is no one would want to go on ESPN 2 because you have the UFC cards as well and you would literally have the schedule completely packed.

I more so meant for PBC + Amazon. I think they could have a model to give UFC a run. Amazon has enough product lines to get boxers pushing Alexa bullshyt too lmfao.

Being a boxing fan is complicated as hell thats why I think 1-2 "Mega" PPVs per quarter creates situations where everyone will put the effort to go or pay, and then the weekly/bi weekly cards keep us fed + you can use it for story telling for the upcoming Mega PPVS.

pretty much take the Wrestling approach making PPVs cultural events rather than a one off. I feel the weekly shows they can just do arena deals in each region (NSEW) and then the PPVs can be Vegas + special locations.
 

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A lot of PBC stans real quiet right now. If pbc bends the knee to dazn after talking all that shyt. Or lord:skip:


Think Amazon would be a nightmare. At least dazn is established. Feel like boxing would become ecw status on prime.

Like I said. Don't be surprised if UFC makes a move. Dana been waiting for this moment. Either way I think some major plays are about to go down. But PBC would be dumb as hell to move to Amazon if the goal is to keep expanding. Think PBC just gotta disband at this point and let it go. Their time is up. But prolly got too much pride.
 

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I more so meant for PBC + Amazon. I think they could have a model to give UFC a run. Amazon has enough product lines to get boxers pushing Alexa bullshyt too lmfao.

Being a boxing fan is complicated as hell thats why I think 1-2 "Mega" PPVs per quarter creates situations where everyone will put the effort to go or pay, and then the weekly/bi weekly cards keep us fed + you can use it for story telling for the upcoming Mega PPVS.

pretty much take the Wrestling approach making PPVs cultural events rather than a one off. I feel the weekly shows they can just do arena deals in each region (NSEW) and then the PPVs can be Vegas + special locations.
PBC already had a chance to make it happen on fox and showtime and they failed. They got too many out of touch old heads to compete. Don't see how a change of networks will change that. The problem wasn't the broadcasters, it was the horrible matchmaking. Flat out. They got greedy. Protected all their talent instead of making them face eachother. Which is how you make stars. If you actually look at their entire run, probably over 80% of their cards were weak as hell. The Shawn porters vs Keith Thurman type fights were a very rare occurrence. They just flat out shyt the bed and people gotta admit it now.
 

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PBC already had a chance to make it happen on fox and showtime and they failed. They got too many out of touch old heads to compete. Don't see how a change of networks will change that. The problem wasn't the broadcasters, it was the horrible matchmaking. Flat out. They got greedy. Protected all their talent instead of making them face eachother. Which is how you make stars. If you actually look at their entire run, probably over 80% of their cards were weak as hell. The Shawn porters vs Keith Thurman type fights were a very rare occurrence. They just flat out shyt the bed and people gotta admit it now.

I said before Boxing is a casualty of the changing media landscape. Boxing is not that important in the grand scheme of the media world so to think this is happening due to match making shows how disconnected dudes are lol.

Media companies are bleeding money right now because they don't have a model that makes sense when it comes to producing or licensing content + running their own steaming apps due to the decline of traditional cable.

Boxing across the board will have to pivot to a new business model or we will be having this same convo when TRs contract ends because Disney is hurting right now.
 
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