Eminem - ''Rap God'' [FULL SONG OUT NOW]

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that is not exactly true.
em really has no vocal tonality, slow flow wise.
to make the type of rap records, consistently in the slow flow.arena
that will have the convincability in some directions, content wise.

that is his only Achilles heel, as an emcee.

Eminem, lacks the ability to fully pocket or have full control in vocal tonality.
which is why he has turned his focus to speeding up.
instead of actually really pocketing all his flows accurately from a vocal tonality based department.
so, he is pretty much going the way of speed, because of a lack of actual use of vocal tone control.


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comparing him to emcees with far greater actual overall skill in that department than him, in krs, rakim, bdk, ll, melle, caz.
krs being the actual artist who first drew and dominated over melle, and the old to new school way of thought.conversion.
as an exact starting point skillwise technically and in simple mechanical execution.
when, it came to the slow flow, and the vocal tonality employed using it, to the most effective.
utilizing, the vocal tonality needed to successfully dominate.
plus, draw at the top of the rap game and culture, legitimately and simultaneously.
before media tampering and the like threatened krs to change up in pr and his appearance volume in other arenas, outside rap.

yet, outside of that.......
just like most emcees, who succeed at the rap game.
the destruction of their original mainstream draw and perception, was always inevitable, in those eras.
which is why the media spews bullshyt like using drawing based mediums to place artists.
instead of the actual skill of the actual artist, into play.
which is where the division from, the stylings of genre's and culture, come into play.
including the detailed discussion of Eminem's skillset, and where marshall, fits historically.

plus, at this point in time...Eminem can and will probably dominate and set the rubrick sales wise in a pop market.
where, that will always dictate the type of rap you get from Eminem.
which, is also....gateway marketed, as the largest in music of any genre.
plus, given drawing preference over all the genre's, generally as well.
except, in the exception of the exact market focus of the urban market.
which is where Eminem lacks permeation from a lack of skill in vocal tonality.

which disturbs him being able to pocket the flow exactly, and accurately.

plus, disturbs his actual song writing key wise when he rhymes.

if you don't believe me....

peep the voice over work dre does with Eminem's work.
versus let's say dre's voice over quality work pocket wise, speed, and tone wise.
to other writers with a higher grasp of vocal tonality.
who are using it in their songwriting like the penning for dre.
you can hear it, the difference.
if you listen to dre on the slow flow delivery based opus, one less.
or, records like lemme ride that display this skill In a quick snapshot.
so, you get what I am talking about without digging to far.

when it comes to rappers with ramped up skill, in the slow flow and the vocal tonality department.
who rank lower with a slow flow or helped create the family tree branch of study.
you could trace back to Eminem's development.
as an outline on paper as a case of study.
you could list, the likes of a recently last projects of finesse, on the awakenings.
all the way to guys, like ll [from pink cookies as a standard slow flow technical rubrick] and even, pmd and granddaddy iu.

Eminem is closer to the frentic delivery of finesse's horrorcore content pioneer and wordsmith protege, big L.
mixed with zee, ozzy, and others respectfully of course.

to compare him to another white rapper who does have convincability, and the actual skilled vocal tone ability.
if I rememeber right,...paul wall is the only white rapper.
I can think of with mainstream permeation with a real actual slow flow vocal tone wise, that is all the way on point.
Eminem, lacks being able to consistently spit the slow flow evolution that paul wall has, in some of paul wall's later albums.
paul wall is a confirmed voice over artist.
who fluctuates based upon who ever has the pen.

so, I can't give/take away any more points for Eminem, in that department.
or ever give some paul wall some footing in a versus argument against em.
as, Eminem, is self taught, from study, practice and showing and proving skillwise from any and every grassroots level possible cred wise.
on a level that far exceeds most emcees in just general conversation.
whether they are white or black.
having vocal tonality is also,..why paul wall drew really well in the urban market.

yet, if Eminem was chasing being the best ever in an obsessive compulsive manner.
you would see Eminem, look to up skill and showcase that evolution/ramp up ability skillwise in vocal tonality.
marshall, has tried to chase it.
yet, failed at it...when, Eminem attempted to do more urban based club/pop/soul records.
em, succeeds at the top 40 pop based clubs/arena/pop soul/bars/radio/rock scene vocal tone and pocket wise.
as that slow flow convincible stylings of urban based pop records.
are not required as a pre-req to succeed in the market place.
in comparison to the urban club/pop/soul/records market.

as, a strictly large selling pop artist.
Eminem can sustain being what his draw currently is, or magnify it.
so, it is viewed in the same manner as the mmlp era.
as recently his current draw is severely lacking in comparison to that era.
which you could say was attributed to his failure to ramp up skillwise in the urban market.
em, is known to use base models of study and copy to gain uppance skill.
which can be pretty much, put in the same category of biting as jay, and nas to no limit's crazy's lifting from pac.
em succeeded in lifting a lighter vocal tone up in skill delivery and pocket wise.
when, we got disposable arts based em.
who lifted from masta ase.

em also,..succeeded in lifting an offkey okay for Eminem emotional pac based delivery.
on songs like soldier, and that whole movie star em era, and after.
that soon gave way to the left over encore era and where we can say Eminem lost steam.
from a reduced marketing perspective, for that project.
as the height of em's draw collasped under that weak marketing perspective.
plus, what a lot of others deem a quality perspective.

as, em even used and succeeded at ll's early up and down use of vocal tonality, and delivery.
from the high energy emotional powered delivery based records like i'm bad to radio/mama said.
to ll's softer vocal tonality days before pink cookies, slowflow direction on skillset change from a technical side, on lose yourself and live for the moment.
yet, failed to use the same ll skillset on and other previous early works.
like the awful lift of the awful ll, one shot at love style records.
on infinite, like jealous and the odes to his bm.
which were grossly offkey.
to the point he used the same offkey stuff to succeed in the technical skills based era, during ssep.
when, he up'd skills.
by finally developing what is a persona in the slim shady.
making being offkey as neither here nor there, when it comes to having a bearing on the pop market, as a draw in rap.

all in all,..the only department Eminem is lacking in, is the use of accurate vocal tonality spitting slow flows.


art barr

Great post

I believe Jimmy Iovine has an understanding of what makes hip-hop music entertaining, Kendrick Lamar has gained praise for his recent "Control" verse but yet this is just the simple culmination of his label chartered development, the man lacked vocal tonality for much of his earlier music and was boring, just as you said an artist would try to put their new skills on display "Control" is a showcase of a new skill that he has picked up through more studio experience and record label development

Imagine if Jimmy Iovine had an artist like Mac Dre who's vocal tonality and non-threatening music could easily translate to pop success
 
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Not bad...he's not saying much but his flow is crazy


Canibus a sellout? gtfoh with that...I agree he shouldn't be mentioned with Em, but that nicca is NOT a culture vulture all he does is rap about spirituality and shyt now
canibus is one of the biggest embarrassments to emcee'n and rap ever.
I guess you missed canibus, get destroyed.
then, implode himself all time to the point of no redeemable return.


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canibus is one of the biggest embarrassments to emcee'n and rap ever.
I guess you missed canibus, get destroyed.
then, implode himself all time to the point of no redeemable return.


art barr

Choking in a rap battle doesn't mean much..most of your favorite MCs wouldn't have balls to even step in the ring in their prime yet alone NOT in their prime
 

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Choking in a rap battle doesn't mean much..most of your favorite MCs wouldn't have balls to even step in the ring in their prime yet alone NOT in their prime


this is canibus,....
if this was those exceptions or general rule mc's you are speaking on .
you would have a point
yet, this is canibus,..who made his first career single a battle record.
so, he gets no pass for what occurred, given his pedigree.


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this is canibus,....
if this was those exceptions or general rule mc's you are speaking on .
you would have a point
yet, this is canibus,..who made his first career single a battle record.
so, he gets no pass for what occurred, given his pedigree.


art barr

Cool, not trying to go back & forth with you on that. Still doesn't make him a sellout though. He stepped into the ring at almost 40 years old though against a certified beast in his prime..what happened SHOULD have happened. That battle record you mentioned came out 15 years ago think about it. Lyrically he's far from an embarrassment
 
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