Eminem - ''Rap God'' [FULL SONG OUT NOW]

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This level of raw rapping can only be reached by a top percentile of people sure, but what is the point of any rapper trying to reach it at the expense of coming off like you're "basically rambling"? Who wants to spectacularly ramble? Why?

This is a great exhibition of "how" to rap, with zero respect for the concept of "what" to rap. I feel like it's beneath him to act like he could get away with this. It's so technically precise that it's probably not possible to replace the words and cogently carry any type of overlying concept than "hey look at me rapping"...which is almost satirical.

When is a 3 point specialist ever the best player in the NBA? I mean the moral of basketball is scoring points, and they score the most points efficiently, so they should be considered the best right?
Just like the best raw rhymer is automatically the best MC (rap god) right? If the world worked that simply success wouldn't be success.

This isn't all specifically towards your post but just a lot of sentiment I've seen in this thread...

The issue isn't wether this type of "black out" track is valid, it's about whether the whole album would be like this. You apply this level of emceeing to story telling or other kinds of approach and you seemingly have a good album on the way. If the album leaks and he's doing this for 2 or 3 more tracks you have a point, but em has show he can do both, you can get a "deja vu" and on the same album as an exhibition track, it's about balance, which has yet you be seen.
 

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When is a 3 point specialist ever the best player in the NBA? I mean the moral of basketball is scoring points, and they score the most points efficiently, so they should be considered the best right?
Just like the best raw rhymer is automatically the best MC (rap god) right? If the world worked that simply success wouldn't be success.
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You are making it seem like Eminem has to do that in one song. On an entire album sure, but this is a specialty track, he is spitting for 6 min. But to use your analogy thats like asking kobe show you he can post up, shot a 3 and drive to the hole all in one possession.
 

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This level of raw rapping can only be reached by a top percentile of people sure, but what is the point of any rapper trying to reach it at the expense of coming off like you're "basically rambling"? Who wants to spectacularly ramble? Why?

This is a great exhibition of "how" to rap, with zero respect for the concept of "what" to rap. I feel like it's beneath him to act like he could get away with this. It's so technically precise that it's probably not possible to replace the words and cogently carry any type of overlying concept than "hey look at me rapping"...which is almost satirical.
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When is a 3 point specialist ever the best player in the NBA? I mean the moral of basketball is scoring points, and they score the most points efficiently, so they should be considered the best right?
Just like the best raw rhymer is automatically the best MC (rap god) right? If the world worked that simply success wouldn't be success.

This isn't all specifically towards your post but just a lot of sentiment I've seen in this thread...

The issue isn't wether this type of "black out" track is valid, it's about whether the whole album would be like this. You apply this level of emceeing to story telling or other kinds of approach and you seemingly have a good album on the way. If the album leaks and he's doing this for 2 or 3 more tracks you have a point, but em has show he can do both, you can get a "deja vu" and on the same album as an exhibition track, it's about balance, which has yet you be seen.


This is the kind of debating I'd like to see more of vs that trolling bs or calling something trash without backing up your reasoning. Lets continue this discussion :obama:
 
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This level of raw rapping can only be reached by a top percentile of people sure, but what is the point of any rapper trying to reach it at the expense of coming off like you're "basically rambling"? Who wants to spectacularly ramble? Why?

This is a great exhibition of "how" to rap, with zero respect for the concept of "what" to rap. I feel like it's beneath him to act like he could get away with this. It's so technically precise that it's probably not possible to replace the words and cogently carry any type of overlying concept than "hey look at me rapping"...which is almost satirical.

Did you listen to the lyrics?
 

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You are making it seem like Eminem has to do that in one song. On an entire album sure, but this is a specialty track, he is spitting for 6 min. But to use your analogy thats like asking kobe show you he can post up, shot a 3 and drive to the hole all in one possession.

Em has been sounding like this for awhile though. It's not just a one song thing
 

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The issue isn't wether this type of "black out" track is valid, it's about whether the whole album would be like this. You apply this level of emceeing to story telling or other kinds of approach and you seemingly have a good album on the way. If the album leaks and he's doing this for 2 or 3 more tracks you have a point, but em has show he can do both, you can get a "deja vu" and on the same album as an exhibition track, it's about balance, which has yet you be seen.
That's fair.

But his moments of actual focus are too few and far between lately
 
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Of course, I listened to the song.

I just didn't come away with much compared to the overall lack of any focus, that was by far my impression of it

Lack of focus? You want dude to just a cut a straightforward verse-chorus-verse-chorus type bullshyt? The song is called RAP GOD and this muthafukka had like 900 different flows in the span of 6 minutes. His technique is almost flawless.

He addresses all the muthafukkas in this song who hate on his new shyt. Too pop? fukk you this is why I do it. Not lyrical enough? fukk you I'm still nice. Too soft? fukk these rap "kings" I'm a rap GOD. Get at me.
 

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This level of raw rapping can only be reached by a top percentile of people sure, but what is the point of any rapper trying to reach it at the expense of coming off like you're "basically rambling"? Who wants to spectacularly ramble? Why?

This is a great exhibition of "how" to rap, with zero respect for the concept of "what" to rap. I feel like it's beneath him to act like he could get away with this. It's so technically precise that it's probably not possible to replace the words and cogently carry any type of overlying concept than "hey look at me rapping"...which is almost satirical.

When is a 3 point specialist ever the best player in the NBA? I mean the moral of basketball is scoring points, and they score the most points efficiently, so they should be considered the best right?
Just like the best raw rhymer is automatically the best MC (rap god) right? If the world worked that simply success wouldn't be success.

This isn't all specifically towards your post but just a lot of sentiment I've seen in this thread...

He can pull off this, and make perfect sense. Look at "Stay Wide Awake". Hell, look at the majority of the songs from his first couple albums.

And I dunno what you're talking about with most of the rest of your post. I never said he's the best, I'm not even a fan of dude outside of a handful of songs. But he obviously can rap, that's my point.

The best example I can give is Michael Bay. I'm a huge movie buff and to me the guy is borderline terrible, outside of a few movies. But Spielberg, Cameron, and other directors people consider gods praise him on a purely technical level. They aren't sitting there like :beli: "this movie is trash"....they're looking at the blocking, shot composition, camera movement, color and tone, etc.

I guarantee you over the next few days rappers are going to :krs: over this because they're looking at it from a different perspective than us. I'm like :ld: "shyt is kinda trash". They're going to be looking at inside rhymes, cadence, and all kinds of other technical shyt. I doubt they'll care he's not saying much. We know he can make sense, tell a story, whatever. This is just him showing his ass on a track.


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