I think Warren should have ran in 2016.
She would have definitely won in 2020 IMO
Elizabeth Warren HQ: She's Got A Plan!
- Thread starter King Kreole
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She would have definitely won in 2020 IMO
Worth posting in here. I for one look forward to what she has to say in the future about what she was talking about at the end. Relates to sexism we were talking about recently
intra vires
Glory to Michigan
Damn. Right before MI too.
Had my vote ready for her in IL
Likewise. C'est la vie.
Kenny West
Veteran
Im black and youre being disingenuous
Congress requires consensus to "get stuff done".
If someone is being principled in calling out bad plans, bad policies and predatory systems that we all agree he was right on decades later then his "ineffectiveness" is a badge of fukking honor. He called out broken systems as they were forming, was overruled majority of the time and was proven right only after people had to suffer.
Why wouldnt you want that person in charge? Rather than the people who "got it done" in creating systems inequality?
“The truth is every major crime bill since 1976 that’s come out of this Congress, every minor crime bill, has had the name of the Democratic senator from the State of Delaware: Joe Biden.”
AZBeauty
Stop lyin' nicca.
Im black and youre being disingenuous
Congress requires consensus to "get stuff done".
If someone is being principled in calling out bad plans, bad policies and predatory systems that we all agree he was right on decades later then his "ineffectiveness" is a badge of fukking honor. He called out broken systems as they were forming, was overruled majority of the time and was proven right only after people had to suffer.
Why wouldnt you want that person in charge? Rather than the people who "got it done" in creating systems inequality?
“The truth is every major crime bill since 1976 that’s come out of this Congress, every minor crime bill, has had the name of the Democratic senator from the State of Delaware: Joe Biden.”
Me asking him was he black had nothing do with him supporting Bernie. It had to do with his condescending tone and attempts to educated me on a conversation that he and I both have been participating in. Take ya cape off. You jumped in like you was handle business because you can announce your blackness lmao. And since you wanted to come and cape for him, Mr. shyt on black southerns because they wont support your white man. You could have answered the fukking question I posed to him repeatedly. I'll allow you to tag yourself in to help him. He said, Bernie has proved himself, proved he can get his policies done and is reliable due to him having the same positions since he was mayor of small town Burlington. My question to him was, show me how he has proved that he can get shyt done. Show me where he was able to get any traction on any important policy position he has held from his time in politics. Go.
Additionally, you dont have to link me to anything about Biden or the crime bill. We stop talking about Black agendas quite some time ago. I'm not a Biden supporter. I'm not going to stay home like a little bytch who didnt get what she wanted either. I'm going to vote blue either way. So no need to do that. Lets stay on topic.
Kenny West
Veteran
No need for tag ins. You were making a shytty point and hiding it behind a shyttier "are you black" manuever.
Well Im just a black person who also happens to be a fan of honest discourse so im getting that garbage out of the way.
by all means, continue
AZBeauty
Stop lyin' nicca.
No need for tag ins. You were making a shytty point and hiding it behind a shyttier "are you black" manuever.
Well Im just a black person who also happens to be a fan of honest discourse so im getting that garbage out of the way.
I wasn't hiding. I was pretty clear with what I was asking and if you dont have anything else to include beside pointing out that you're black, then move tf around. If my point was so shytty, I'm sure either you or him could have addressed it but you didnt.
dora_da_destroyer
Master Baker
Liz understands inter-party politics, she should have taken the leap, but I see why she didn't. It was tough to calculate how bucking the party would've played out, Hill was gonna get the 16 nom by any means necessary.
Hillary's team were panicking in 2014-15 when the Draft Warren folks were trying to get her to run. Bernie was also urging her to run big time.
Hillary wins the nomination but it would have been VERY interesting to see Liz debate Hillary. That would have been something.
dora_da_destroyer
Master Baker
yea, to me, seeing two women, two very qualified and talented women, be the main contenders for the nomination and have the stage to themselves, that might have ensured the glass ceiling finally fell.
esquire.com
Elizabeth Warren Was More of a Threat to the Money Power Than Bernie Sanders
Charles P. Pierce
8-9 minutes
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CAMBRIDGE, MASSACHUSETTS—The bouquet of microphones drew quite the crowd to Linnaean Street shortly after noon on Thursday. Camera crews had staked positions on several of the wraparound porches along the street. People brought dogs that yapped at each other. One irredeemable ass showed up in a MAGA hat and a Trump/Pence sign and bellowed, “FAKE MEDIA!” into the cameras wielded by people who clearly have not learned a thing since 2016. And they aren’t the only ones, either.
I’m not going to dwell on the sexism that so regularly cropped up during Elizabeth Warren’s now-suspended presidential campaign. Proud, accomplished women, writing about what happened to this proud and accomplished woman, already have done so thoroughly enough that what little I could add would have to walk a tightrope between repetition and presumption that I am not able to navigate. This one hurts them in ways I can’t even imagine. Except to say, as the father of yet another proud and accomplished woman, fckabuncha all of y’all, including all you women who joined in. I suspect I am not alone in saying this.
On Thursday, Warren tried to explain the bear trap awaiting all proud and accomplished women who run for office.
“If you say, ‘Yeah, there was sexism in this race,’ everyone says, ‘Whiner!’ If you say, ‘No, there was no sexism,’ about a bazillion women think, ‘What planet do you live on?’”
Her press conference was brief, barely seven minutes long. She refused to endorse anyone, which is smart as hell at this point, and she said, as she always does, that her campaign was the logical product of the life she’d led.
"I stood in that voting booth and I looked down and saw my name on the ballot and I thought, ‘Wow, kiddo, you're not in Oklahoma anymore.’ For that moment, standing in the booth—I miss my mommy and my daddy.”
Instead, and accepting that sexism and misogyny were marbled throughout everything about the campaign, I think what did her in was her ideas. She committed herself to a campaign specifically to fight political corruption, both the legal and illegal kind. As an adjunct to that, she marshaled her long fight against the power of money in our politics and monopoly in our economy. And, opposed to Bernie Sanders, whose answer to how to wage the fight is always the power of his “movement,” which so far hasn’t been able to break through against Joe Biden, she put out detailed plans on how to do it. That made her much more of a threat to the money power than Sanders, who is easily dismissed as a fringe socialist by the people who buy elections and own the country.
Warren announced she was suspending her campaign on Thursday.
Scott EisenGetty Images
If I were Jeff Bezos, and I heard Elizabeth Warren talk about how monopoly can distort an economy, I’d have been worried. If I were Mark Zuckerberg, and I heard Elizabeth Warren talk about how the concentration of social media perverts our public ideals, I’d have been worried. If I were the folks at Comcast, and I heard Elizabeth Warren talk about how media concentration damages the national dialogue, I’d have been worried. I’d have been worried not simply because a presidential candidate was saying this, but because she was able to make people understand it, and because she was able to show people how she would do it. That would keep me up nights.
There always has been a touch of Cassandra to her career. As she said on Thursday, “Ten years ago, I was teaching a few blocks from here, and talking about what was broken in America and how to fix it, and pretty much nobody wanted to hear it.” Along with several other proud and accomplished women, whose advice was ignored by the likes of Larry Summers and Robert Rubin, Warren sounded the alarm on the mortgage crisis years before it crashed the economy. She was then brought in to help clean up the damage. There’s an obvious life lesson in there that I hope I need not explain. However, if she says something is breaking in the economy, listen to her next time, OK? This was most obvious in the campaign’s most curious episode—how she was “disappeared” from news coverage after finishing third in Iowa. This was the period in which an NBC poll refused to even include her because, basically, the pollster didn’t want to. Amy Klobuchar was included, but Amy Klobuchar wasn’t going around explaining how media monopolies gouge their consumers and marginalize certain issues and the people fighting for them.
However, this is not a country that is ready for what she called, endlessly, “big, structural change.” This is a country fearful of any kind of change at all, a country longing for a simpler time—which, these days, does not mean the flush 1950s or the pastoral 1850s, but 2015. The election of Donald Trump has lodged in so many minds a longing for the status quo ante that there’s no room for intelligent experimentation. When Pete Buttigieg talked about how his campaign was about “humility,” he wasn’t simply being banal, although he certainly was. He was responding to a national mood that everybody who has been around this campaign has sensed.
The problem is that the damage done by this administration* is so deep and lasting that the last thing we need to follow this president* is a humble president with a humble agenda. For example, Joe Biden has no desire to break the monopoly power, and Bernie Sanders doesn’t have the first idea how to do it. But it’s still going to be there, distorting the economy and perverting the public discourse, no matter who gets elected in the fall. You might be frightened by the idea of Big, Structural Change but, without it, the deterioration of the republic will continue apace. We have been rendered such a timorous people that even someone as open and lively and welcoming as Elizabeth Warren was considered too much of a risk.
Oh, and she wasn’t “likable,” either. Remember? God, what a load of bollocks that is.
As if to prove that Fate is the ultimate troll, this story broke in The New York Times on the morning that Elizabeth Warren suspended her campaign.
House Democrats say the bank found an ally in Eric Blankenstein, a political appointee high up in the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, the agency created to guard against the abuse of mom-and-pop customers. Mr. Blankenstein, an enforcement official at the agency, privately offered reassurances to Wells Fargo’s chief executive at the time that there would be “political oversight” of its enforcement actions, according to a report issued Wednesday by the House Financial Services Committee. The report said the agency had promised that the unresolved regulatory matters, such as an inquiry into the bank’s aggressive practice of closing customers’ accounts, would be settled in private, without further fines.
For those of you who may be joining politics late, the CFPB is the agency created by Elizabeth Warren and Wells Fargo is her personal bete noire. (Here she is, telling its CEO that he ought to be clapped in irons.) My guess? She already knows about this bit of news and she’s gearing up—one might even say “planning”—to chew someone out over it. Stay buckled up, America. Senator Professor Warren is not through with you yet.
Th3G3ntleman
Superstar
Watching Bernie Bro pundits blaming a lean into too much intersectionality as a cause for My Anti-Identity politic's Bernie's loss makes me hopeful.
Makes me hopeful because it's clear these people will never be in power in this party and likely ever. To come out with that sort of take after getting shyt on the way he shyt on(mainly by AA) is hilarious.
Once we get rid of these grifters and faux wanna be alt-right aggrieved white liberals we can actually get a real progressive movement going in the party that will benefit all groups.
Makes me hopeful because it's clear these people will never be in power in this party and likely ever. To come out with that sort of take after getting shyt on the way he shyt on(mainly by AA) is hilarious.
Once we get rid of these grifters and faux wanna be alt-right aggrieved white liberals we can actually get a real progressive movement going in the party that will benefit all groups.
JMurder
SOHH Member since 01...
Liz didn't come with the baggage and negative connotations that Hillary did. I'm not gonna give her the "she's a woman" out because she's generally unlikable to me
my lady just told me a white girl she works with said she voted for biden, my lady told her she voted for warren and her response was i agree with her but didnt think she could win 
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King Kreole
natural blondie like goku
my lady just told me a white girl she works with said she voted for biden, my lady told her she voted for warren and her response was i agree with her but didnt think she could win
