Elijah Muhammad is the greatest Black leader ever in North America

[get these nets]

that is true,,, b.u.t. we tend to forget Martin Delany, who is considered by most the father of black nationalism

W.E.B. Dubois hated garvey called him crazy, for wanting to go back to afrika... as I recalled, when W.E.B. Dubois was president of the NAACP, he wouldnt allow dark skinned members, only lighter skinned/fair blacks.

I'm familiar with Delany, but he gets overshadowed by Douglas.

I think what happened was that Garvey went to an NAACP meeting and saw only whites and fair skinned Black members. And when he and Dubois had their war of words, he painted the NAACP with that brush. Dubois wouldn't ban visibly Black members, but when Garvey wrote the editorial or speech calling them out for who was in charge..it was easy for the general public to believe that.

Every public figure has comments,stances and words that are hard to swallow for their admirers....including Garvey,but we can only judge them for the complete picture..warts and all.

 

[Self_Born7]

I'm familiar with Delany, but he gets overshadowed by Douglas.

I think what happened was that Garvey went to an NAACP meeting and saw only whites and fair skinned Black members. And when he and Dubois had their war of words, he painted the NAACP with that brush. Dubois wouldn't ban visibly Black members, but when Garvey wrote the editorial or speech calling them out for who was in charge..it was easy for the general public to believe that.

peace... thanks for clearing that up...

 

[jackson35]

W.E.B. Dubois hated garvey called him crazy, for wanting to go back to afrika... as I recalled, when W.E.B. Dubois was president of the NAACP, he wouldnt allow dark skinned members, only lighter skinned/fair blacks.

you got it twisted garvey resented do bois because he was fair skinned, had white folks under him and he got a degree

 

[jackson35]

I'm familiar with Delany, but he gets overshadowed by Douglas.

I think what happened was that Garvey went to an NAACP meeting and saw only whites and fair skinned Black members. And when he and Dubois had their war of words, he painted the NAACP with that brush. Dubois wouldn't ban visibly Black members, but when Garvey wrote the editorial or speech calling them out for who was in charge..it was easy for the general public to believe that.

Every public figure has comments,stances and words that are hard to swallow for their admirers....including Garvey,but we can only judge them for the complete picture..warts and all.

this is where garvey got in trouble. the only fair skinned blacks reppin the naacp was thurgood marshall and walter white and julian bond. every body else was dark skinned.

 

[Self_Born7]

this is where garvey got in trouble. the only fair skinned blacks reppin the naacp was thurgood marshall and walter white and julian bond. every body else was dark skinned.

and for the record,,, Thurgood Marshall was a known snitch for Hoover, ratting them all out.

 

[jackson35]

and for the record,,, Thurgood Marshall was a known snitch for Hoover, ratting them all out.

that' cracker talk LOL why would hoover ask marshall who was doing what when he spent most of his time in a fukking court room? do even know what he did for the naacp?

 

[Losttribe]

you got it twisted garvey resented do bois because he was fair skinned, had white folks under him and he got a degree

Lol


Dubois made madddddd comments, borderline c00nish and most def elitist against Garvey and others.
Plus he was in partnership with devils and demon jews.

 

[jackson35]

Lol


Dubois made madddddd comments, borderline c00nish and most def elitist against Garvey and others.
Plus he was in partnership with devils and demon jews.

ok lets examine what you are saying.1 dubois an elitist??? garvey is a capitalist, garvey was not walking around Harlem in hand me downs ok, garvey was just as elitist as dubois. 2 c00nish statements??? by asking garvey why is he collecting millions of dollars from black folks as a independent entity as oppose to a officer of the unia? garvey call all the shots. in other words, there was nobody in the unia to check his ass as to whether or not he knew what the fukk he was doing. he bought a gang of ship with poor black folk money and lost it because those ship were in no condition to do shyt.. 3 those demons and jews were doing what the fukk he wanted. legal represention for blacks. 2 reports and papers on the black condition. he made those rich white men subservient to him and the community.

 

[Losttribe]

1)capitalist doesn't automatically mean Elitist- thats a common misconception
2) Garvey wasnt a western capitaist in the sense you're thinking. He was Against the white mans aystems (communism, capitalism). He only chose capitalism as a method to address our lack of financial and Functional independence. He also felt socialism and communism were Poor Crakker created ideas to fight against Rich crakkers.
3) Garvey inspired Millions of our people to Be Prideful and independent. Yes he called the shots- of course because HE created the group!.... He wasn't just some black pawn of white liberal fake jews like 100% of other black groups and leaders.
4) to say that those jews and liberal were doing what we wanted is A) Gross levels of cognitive dissonance B) Revisionist history and attempting to pretend the blacks in those groups were in full control

 

[Losttribe]

5) William dubois was on that talented 10th BS... And he disagreed with booker t Washington that we need to focus on Self Developmemt- Dubois was All about the white liberal. When in reality White liberals are just White supremacist with lubrication

 

[Losttribe]

c00n statements is going to tell your white daddies that Marcus Garvey is, without doubt, the most dangerous enemy of the Negro race in America and in the world. He is either a lunatic or a traitor.”

Plus dubois.. Randolf and others were pigementocracy negros- privileged mulattos who were accepted by liberals for their skin tone and ideology.

Dubois said Garvey was a short black man and made fun of his nose and more afrikan features.
Dubois and the so called talentef 10th whole ideology was they were Caucasian backed Black intellectual elite...
Once he callef Garvey a little black Monkey

They were jealous or nervous of Garvey and that's why they worked with the Feds to deport him.

@jackson35

 

[jackson35]

1)capitalist doesn't automatically mean Elitist- thats a common misconception
2) Garvey wasnt a western capitaist in the sense you're thinking. He was Against the white mans aystems (communism, capitalism). He only chose capitalism as a method to address our lack of financial and Functional independence. He also felt socialism and communism were Poor Crakker created ideas to fight against Rich crakkers.
3) Garvey inspired Millions of our people to Be Prideful and independent. Yes he called the shots- of course because HE created the group!.... He wasn't just some black pawn of white liberal fake jews like 100% of other black groups and leaders.
4) to say that those jews and liberal were doing what we wanted is A) Gross levels of cognitive dissonance B) Revisionist history and attempting to pretend the blacks in those groups were in full control

1it is a common misconception,but it fits garvey in relation to his actions because he was taking poor people money, throwing it around however he saw fit without consulting his investor and making their condition worse because he did not know what he was doing.2 he was a western capalist if he was charging the community for various services.3 no one is disputing he called the shots, problem is he should not have been the only one. it should have been a collective decision.3 dobois started the naacp, he told those crackers if you going to join the naacp, your going to spend money and do community work for colored people

 

[jackson35]

c00n statements is going to tell your white daddies that Marcus Garvey is, without doubt, the most dangerous enemy of the Negro race in America and in the world. He is either a lunatic or a traitor.”

Plus dubois.. Randolf and others were pigementocracy negros- privileged mulattos who were accepted by liberals for their skin tone and ideology.

Dubois said Garvey was a short black man and made fun of his nose and more afrikan features.
Dubois and the so called talentef 10th whole ideology was they were Caucasian backed Black intellectual elite...
Once he callef Garvey a little black Monkey

They were jealous or nervous of Garvey and that's why they worked with the Feds to deport him.

@jackson35

how were those crackers dobois daddy when it's his organazation? you think rich crackers want to spend money that they rob from the community to advance us in society? that statement came after his supporters came to their office and complain about garvey and how he squandered their investment. i also notice you didn't mention what garvey said about dubois. garvey was the one who had a problem with him. not the other way around. why would dobois be jealous when his organazation was helping our hood, while his was keeping us in the dog house financially.

 

[jackson35]

5) William dubois was on that talented 10th BS... And he disagreed with booker t Washington that we need to focus on Self Developmemt- Dubois was All about the white liberal. When in reality White liberals are just White supremacist with lubrication

please tell us how his concept was bullshyt when garvey was trying do the same shyt? LOL

 

[Losttribe]

please tell us how his concept was bullshyt when garvey was trying do the same shyt? LOL

Garvey wasnt trying to build a talented 10th of mulatto c00ns who loved to build with white liberal as opposed to their own people- then wonder why they weren't getting high numbers like Garvey