Eight Year Old Boy takes medication to delay puberty as he ponders his gender

[mrken12]

I try to keep an open mind about a lot of stuff...even when I feel it goes against what my "guts" tell me, I try to intellectually be open...but for real...


THIS is the most slept-on aspect of this whole story. NO WAY ON EARTH a 8-year old should have that "power". I'm a "liberal" I guess by American standards, but the whole "Let's listen to kids because at 8 they obviously know what they're talking about" has gone WAY too far.

I wanted to be a Power Ranger when I was a kid. If I was a kid in today's society, I'd probably be a mini Phoenix Jones.

 

[thekingsmen]

I said giving him hormone blockers wasn't about changing his sexual identity. The kid trying to cut off his dikk IS about changing his sexual identity- the kid clearly wants to be a girl. The parents are trying to stop him from rushing down that road with the blockers and therapy.

Him cutting his wang off has nothing to do with him changing his sex. You supporters continue to deny Abuse in this factor...

 

[TooLazyToMakeUp1]

If only I had his parents when I legit wanted to become Batman @ 8 years old

 

[GetInTheTruck]

It's not encouraging a sex change because they're not telling him or pressuring him to choose to be a girl. They didn't even want to give him the hormone blockers at first. They are clearly hesitant about the entire process. They ended up choosing this route for the reasons already stated- allowing him to go through puberty normally would only destabilize him further. He needs mental help before he can do that. What yall don't seem to understand is that this holds true whether or not you want him to embrace being a boy or not. It has nothing to do with any political stance on the issue. It's a purely health-based maneuver. Most people with gender confusion attempt suicide at least once before their teens are over- that risk is only increased when you intensify the factors that cause their dysphoria- the incongruence of their mental self-image and their physical bodies. In other words, letting him go through puberty naturally would only make his condition worse and increase the risk that he'd do something crazy like chopping off his dikk or killing himself. No matter what way you want this kid to go, not intensifying that incongruence until he gets more help and until he's more mature is the reasonable next move. It's the same principle as trying to cure a child's aquaphobia (irrational fear of water)- you don't do it by force, throwing them in the deep end of the pool with all the other kids. That won't solve the problem and it will make it worse. Instead, you hold off on the pool and use therapeutic methods until they get to the point where they can enter the pool at all, then gradually work their way into normalcy.

If you have an issue with them letting him wear a dress or headbands or whatever, that's fine- but it's a completely separate issue from this treatment, even if the logic is similar (not forcing him into further instability.) Again, they didn't want to let him become a girl- that's why they chose this treatment in the first place.

As for God, I don't really care if children hear about God or not, as long as religion isn't promoted by public schools or institutions. I don't see how that's an unreasonable view relative to my views on this subject.

How does anybody know he's going to think when he's 12, 14, 16 years old? H'es 8 and in a fukked up family situation already, who knows what's going through his head. I'm sorry I just don't think he's been in the world long enough for them to start messing with his natural development so drastically...it's way too soon for all that.

 

[Blackking]

let's say that he feels like a girl. That isn't as uncommon as people think - for girls or boys. Whats uncommon is to be in an environment that feeds into that confusion............. and an environment that would have an 8 year old Threatening suicide. An eight year old shouldn't have suicide coming out of his mouth over his penis.

They actually put a dress on him and do other shyt to make him feel like a girl - I don't think the fact that they are carpet munching women parents is the issue. Even if they were hetro parents - THEY are fukking the boy up.

No one I know ever "lets the kid run the show" THAT shyt IS the definition of irresponsible parenting. Period.

my sons used to 'play house' and 1 used to be the girl They never acted like or did any fakkit shyt - they simply were playing the different parts - but it would have been irresponsible for me to allow that type of behavior to progress and encourage it like, yeah wear a dress. Kids actually don't even think in these terms unless they are in environments that lead to them thinking about this type of shyt ............ like lets say a lesbo household. In that home, they aren't speaking about that shyt cuz they are demonic, but I'm sure issues like gay marriage - and convos about y you have two mommies, etc are constant. That environment plus him being slightly confused already is y he wants to chop his dikk off. Plus him knowing and thinking about suicide also shows a fukked up household.

 

[Hollywood Co]

Delaying puberty has got to be more damaging than what the kid is already going through. Gotta be cutting years off his life in some form or fashion.

You want him to sort out his identity but you let him dress like a girl and call himself Tammy?


This story is so crazy I don't know if I can believe it.

 

[Mowgli]

White folks really need to clean their house on this. All this school shootings, teen rape, etc, its demonic.

@Mr. Somebody @Mowgli @Crakface

This is what they consider a clean house.

 

[The Real]

How does anybody know he's going to think when he's 12, 14, 16 years old? H'es 8 and in a fukked up family situation already, who knows what's going through his head. I'm sorry I just don't think he's been in the world long enough for them to start messing with his natural development so drastically...it's way too soon for all that.

I agree with the gist of your point, but that's exactly why I think they chose a reasonable solution. The choices they have are to either ignore the problem, try and force him to behave like a boy, let him become a girl, or try and get him therapy and prevent him from becoming worse. Of those, only the last one will work- the others will all lead him to become worse, as we know from the psych research. The delays are only a part of the last option. They have no long term effects and can be stopped at any time. They won't change anything about his adult life. They just prevent his confusion from getting worse by having his body transform further from his mental self-image until he is cured.

If they were letting him become a girl, I would be criticizing them right alongside you. But as it stands, this is not that, and none of the other options work.

And as an aside, mainstream Islam is one of the few religions that understands that trans people actually exist and that they aren't just mentally ill or homosexuals or cross dressers, but their own entity. There's resources for understanding how to deal with this stuff in your tradition already.

Him cutting his wang off has nothing to do with him changing his sex. You supporters continue to deny Abuse in this factor...

Did you read the article? You're literally making something up out of thin air. He wanted to cut it off because he doesn't want a dikk.

 

[No1]

On one hand I almost want to side with @Sensitive Blake Griffin @The Real and @Broletariat just because people are arguing off gut and not based on research, but the West African side of fam running through my veins just won't let me co-sign this

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

On one hand I almost want to side with @Sensitive Blake Griffin @The Real and @Broletariat just because people are arguing off gut and not based on research, but the West African side of fam running through my veins just won't let me co-sign this

Meh. I hate on pedophiles; for what they do to children. Furries and bestiality people for the factor and what they do to animals, but transsexuals? They hurting people out here?

 

[thekingsmen]

Did you read the article? You're literally making something up out of thin air. He wanted to cut it off because he doesn't want a dikk.

When it comes to situations like this...you are a complete idiot. You deny deny deny. He was abused....that is why he doing the things he is doing.

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

the West African side of fam running through my veins just won't let me co-sign this

What does this even mean? Do West African's hate people with gender identity disorder or something? Again, being accepting of people's gender identity when it differs from their physical appearance doesn't mean you have to "co-sign" anything. As long as you aren't hateful for no reason transgendered folks aren't hurting anyone, they're just looking to be accepted for who they feel they are deep inside

 

[Marvel]

If only I had his parents when I legit wanted to become Batman @ 8 years old

I wanted to be Marty McFly and travel Back to the Future

 

[The Real]

On one hand I almost want to side with @Sensitive Blake Griffin @The Real and @Broletariat just because people are arguing off gut and not based on research, but the West African side of fam running through my veins just won't let me co-sign this

At the very least, change the title to reflect the fact that the kid did not get a sex change and that his parents are trying to stop him from getting one by delaying puberty. The only reason I responded to this thread in the first place was due to this blatant misrepresentation of the facts in an attempt to mystify an already complicated issue. Half the people who responded to this thread are still under the impression that the parents encouraged and let the kid get a sex change.

 

[No1]

What does this even mean? Do West African's hate people with gender identity disorder or something? Again, being accepting of people's gender identity when it differs from their physical appearance doesn't mean you have to "co-sign" anything. As long as you aren't hateful for no reason transgendered folks aren't hurting anyone, they're just looking to be accepted for who they feel they are deep inside

What it means is you need to calm down because you're lecturing the wrong person. I gave a tongue-in cheek reference which was also saying that you guys were making more sense than others (I'm not unfamiliar with that research). Also, you obviously don't know anything about Africans if you're asking me what that means....Africa is centuries behind on issues like this...goodness. But while we're here. I get that you have a gay relative or whatever, but that does not mean that everyone is supposed to automatically understand and support all of these things one 100% and not grapple with them or not be confused by it. But again, you're preaching at the wrong person.