Ebro says Drake doesn't have a regional sound and identity and is out of touch ; UPDATE : BOI-1DA Puts His Cape on & Responds

[straightcash]

Ebro and Drake are both half Jewish. There's no reason why Ebro and his cohosts are still on the air.

Ebro is a big reason why Hot 97 fell out of relevancy nationally and internationally. Rosenberg is trash and a culture vulture, Ebro is trash and was once a programming head for Hot 97, and Laura Stylez is a literal paperweight like DJ Envy.

Ebro spent a whole decade shytting on different rappers but did NOT promote the alternatives. That's some psyop shyt. It's like Ebro's role is to ensure every rapper he claims to dislike actually gets as big as possible. Do do not EVER trust a word that comes out of his mouth.

Hot 97 had an Italian who was involved in a racial clash against Blacks decades ago literally working inside their studio for many years until it was outted sometimes before the pandemic.

 

[ThirdAct]

You don't become an international superstar and dominate for a decade by sticking to a regional sound. Every big artist including Jay z, kanye etc. has hopped on waves and leaned on youth to stay relevant.

I mean yeah to an extent other rappers have rode waves and gotten away from the sound of their cities. BUT there is still typically some level of authenticity to back that up. For instance Jay still sounds like a rapper from Brooklyn even as he was linking with different producers or different artists or whatever. Drake just doesn't have that authenticity to back up his wave riding.

And either way it was a brilliant rebuttal by Kendrick. He tied two different things Drake said together, I'm bigger in your city than you are and you rap like you're trying to free the slaves, and said here's what my region sounds like while you are stealing sounds from another region because you have no sound of your own. And it's not the first time Drake's authenticity has been questioned but he just set it up in such a well-written, hard-hitting way (complete with historical perspective and pretty much structuring it like a story) and flipped it in such a way that it was just devastating.

 

[Nigerianwonder]

I mean yes to an extent other rappers have rode waves and gotten away from the sound of their cities. BUT there is still typically some level of authenticity to back that up. For instance Jay still sounds like a rapper from Brooklyn even as he was linking with different producers or different artists or whatever. Drake just doesn't have that authenticity to back up his wave riding.

And either way it was a brilliant rebuttal by Kendrick. He tied two different things Drake said together, I'm bigger in your city than you are and you rap like you're trying to free the slaves, and said here's what my region sounds like while you are stealing sounds from another region because you have no sound of your own. And it's not the first time Drake's authenticity has been questioned but he just set it up in such a well-written, hard-hitting way (complete with historical perspective and pretty much structuring it like a story) and flipped it in such a way that it was just devastating.

A lot of artist tried to branch out at times and have failed and it sounds forced. Even goats like Jay (Ghetto techno lol) and nas have failed at this many times. Drake has been one of the most versatile artist we have ever seen. Part of that appeal is that he floats between genres authentically. It doesn't always feel forced.. He really floated over afrobeat, houston, new orleans, and atl sounds better than a lot of "authentic" artist from those regions. I don't see that as a knock on him. He wouldnt have been dominating the the game for 10+ years if he wasnt making music that people felt was not authentic and didnt feel and gravitate too. It just doesnt happen. Go to any black function/ party in any region of the country the past 10 years some drake coming on at some point. And everyone was rocking with it. The revisionist history needs to stop.

 

[Left.A1]

Ebro is kinda right. The cynics and the Drake stans wanna dismiss it as some pro-black hotep nonsense. But when you look at it from a musical and heritage stadnpoint, its true. Drake can flow his ass off(pause) over a Trap beat or a Drill beat or maybe even a Westcoast beat. But we all know, he's from Toronto. So it's not gonna seem authentic, even if he technically did it right. Kendrick flowing on a Westcoast beat, off rip tapped into everyone's nostalgia receptors, and we saw it as a throwback regional anthem. Which in term, had ripples outside of just CA as we tapped into that CA nostalgia as well, without actually being from CA. You saw the predominantly/exclusively eastcoast Budden podcast doing them westcoast dances to They Not Like Us. It's like if A$AP hopped on a classic NY beat to throw shots. Or when Pastor Troy made No Play In GA, or when Lil Keke made Southside, or when Jeru made The East Is In The House. Drake doesn't have that "root" to tap into that makes the ppl say "Aw shyt!! He went back to Toronto with that shyt!!!!!"

The Drake Stan's understand exactly what Ebros meant that's why they're so upset in here and deflecting talking about some "buhH buhH BUH Boi-1da gave Kendrick a beat!!!!"

 

[Givethanks]

What's funny even the Canadian posters here been telling you this from time lol

There's nothing Tdot about this guy lol

 

[987654321]

Ebro and Drake are both half Jewish. There's no reason why Ebro and his cohosts are still on the air.

Ebro is a big reason why Hot 97 fell out of relevancy nationally and internationally. Rosenberg is trash and a culture vulture, Ebro is trash and was once a programming head for Hot 97, and Laura Stylez is a literal paperweight like DJ Envy.

Ebro spent a whole decade shytting on different rappers but did NOT promote the alternatives. That's some psyop shyt. It's like Ebro's role is to ensure every rapper he claims to dislike actually gets as big as possible. Do do not EVER trust a word that comes out of his mouth.

Hot 97 had an Italian who was involved in a racial clash against Blacks decades ago literally working inside their studio for many years until it was outted sometimes before the pandemic.

 

[Left.A1]

Kendrick is only on the hook and doesn’t make records using traditional west coast beats like this. This is what we wanna hear Kenny on but he don’t make records like this until he dropped Not Like Us

Ahhh nikka shut yo OV-HOOOEEEE ass up you can go back through his catalog for the past 15 years... Literally since the beginning to see that this shyt is pure cap... He's always had a distinct Westcoast sound included in his albums that "Not Like Us" got these Drake Stan's completely discombobulated talking about "buhH buhH whadddabout Boi-1da!!!!" lmao

 

[ThirdAct]

A lot of artist tried to branch out at times and have failed and it sounds forced. Even goats like Jay (Ghetto techno lol) and nas have failed at this many times. Drake has been one of the most versatile artist we have ever seen. Part of that appeal is that he floats between genres authentically. It doesn't always feel forced.. He really floated over afrobeat, houston, new orleans, and atl sounds better than a lot of "authentic" artist from those regions. I don't see that as a knock on him. He wouldnt have been dominating the the game for 10+ years if he wasnt making music that people felt was not authentic and didnt feel and gravitate too. It just doesnt happen. Go to any black function/ party in any region of the country the past 10 years some drake coming on at some point. And everyone was rocking with it. The revisionist history needs to stop.

If Jay and Nas failed at branching out, it's because both of their roots are such regional sounds. I mean Nas early career was almost TOO authentic - Illmatic literally sounds like he's walking you through his hood and the second he tried something different than those roots he got criticized for it. Maybe Drake can do those sounds and styles you mentioned well enough but there's nothing for him to fall back on. What are Drake's roots? What is his own sound? What is his shyt that shows he's from Forest Hill Toronto? His early shyt? I don't know. This is a big part of why lost this one so badly - he was trying to be something he was not. I think this battle is a huge turning point in hip-hop.

 

[Black Excellence]

Yall be exposing yourselves lmao

 

[Left.A1]

Yall be exposing yourselves lmao

"Boi-1da do his beats"

 

[CarltonJunior]

A lot of artist tried to branch out at times and have failed and it sounds forced. Even goats like Jay (Ghetto techno lol) and nas have failed at this many times. Drake has been one of the most versatile artist we have ever seen. Part of that appeal is that he floats between genres authentically. It doesn't always feel forced.. He really floated over afrobeat, houston, new orleans, and atl sounds better than a lot of "authentic" artist from those regions. I don't see that as a knock on him. He wouldnt have been dominating the the game for 10+ years if he wasnt making music that people felt was not authentic and didnt feel and gravitate too. It just doesnt happen. Go to any black function/ party in any region of the country the past 10 years some drake coming on at some point. And everyone was rocking with it. The revisionist history needs to stop.

I don't think anyone is doubting that drake has made a bunch of hits on a lot of different styles, did numbers or that people rocked with it

But it's not an asinine angle to say that it's not authentic and that it isn't pushing the culture ahead.

 

[FunkDoc1112]

And I also wanted to add that the Los Angeles sound is a lot more than G-Funk.


Dot has always had a west coast sound. Even the Jazzy songs harken back to 60’s and 70’s LA.

I’m sorry that Drake’s “sound” is no different than Iggy Azalea. Toronto has always been more than 40’s YouTube tutorial video beats.

Yup, Cali's always had a thriving underground jazzy boom bap scene, that Netflix Hip-Hop documentary was eye-opening. It's where Alchemist, Evidence, Rass Kass, Hieroglyphics and all them dudes came from.

shyt, when Tyler the Creator first came on the scene people were comparing Odd Future to Eminem and Wu-Tang but they always sounded wayyyy more like Pharcyde to me, just crasser and raunchier.

 

[bourgeoisie tall freak]

some west coast classics for those who think a "traditional west coast" = mustard or gfunk




the west coast has a diverse sound, kendrick does that.

 

[jwinfield]

some west coast classics for those who think a "traditional west coast" = mustard or gfunk




the west coast has a diverse sound, kendrick does that.

 

[Big Boss]

The fukk you smoking on? Kendrick's main producer is Sounwave and he is from Compton. Even the Boi-1da tracks are co-produced by Sounwave. All Kendrick's albums sound like experimental Cali hip-hop., and he also occasionally incorporates g funk and always uses West Coast flows, slang, subject matter, and culture. Kendrick's sound is absolutely West Coast.

Man people don't know what they talking about