E. Ness Debates Jay Z Holding Back Beanie Sigel’s Career

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Beans had RESOURCES to do whatever he wanted on the ROC, the guy had 3 ALBUMS on the ROC (i know the 3rd one was on dame dash group, but still had the resources from the ROC) it was all on BEANS to do with what he wanted to do with it ,even had the Jay features and the great production. WAYYYYYYY more opportunities than Ness did. The debate should've been "Why you let puff HOLD YOU BACK"? :heh:
 

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Beans had RESOURCES to do whatever he wanted on the ROC, the guy had 3 ALBUMS on the ROC (i know the 3rd one was on dame dash group, but still had the resources from the ROC) it was all on BEANS to do with what he wanted to do with it ,even had the Jay features and the great production. WAYYYYYYY more opportunities than Ness did. The debate should've been "Why you let puff HOLD YOU BACK"? :heh:
Beanie also had a fukkin clothing line:dead:

But he was held back:mjlol:
 

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Beanie also had a fukkin clothing line:dead:

But he was held back:mjlol:
I’m thinking he wanted Jay to step down and focus just on beans

No mater what

All the beats all the resources street team etc goes to beans

All the while beans was in the streets

Which is wild
 

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NEVER HAD ANY STAR POWER

he was just going to be the heartfelt raw real street guy regardless

how jay was able to go from hustling to corporate america is one of a kind once in a lifetime type shyt

im more of a nas stanley but hov's trajectory is INSANE
 

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Beans being in and out of Jail

Losing his voice

Being fat as hell

are the main things that ruined his career.

at one point he had kids rocking state prop clothing, watching state prop movies and listening to their music on the radio. He had all the exposure you could hope to get with a record label. Just needed to capitalize on it.


Now that he lost his voice he can't tour or act anymore, could have at least maintained a lifestyle touring with other rappers and doing a small film feature here and there like Fredo Starr.
 
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hell, i always believed Beans overachieved

how big was a fat straight forward serious gangsta lyricist with no sing a longs even supposed to get

he coulda took it further i suppose, but what he achieved was already unprecedented from my purview

Kinda how I look at it. Did anyone really expect beans to be some big crossover artist? He lacks any sort of mainstream appeal.

Now in terms of Hov "holding him back," I do believe that Jay probably sharked some songs, beats, features, etc. that were probably meant for beans but once Hov heard them he was like nah i'mma grab this for myself. But I guarantee you there was no ego trippin about "beans might become bigger than me!" b/c it just wasn't going to happen.
 

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Beans had RESOURCES to do whatever he wanted on the ROC, the guy had 3 ALBUMS on the ROC (i know the 3rd one was on dame dash group, but still had the resources from the ROC) it was all on BEANS to do with what he wanted to do with it ,even had the Jay features and the great production. WAYYYYYYY more opportunities than Ness did. The debate should've been "Why you let puff HOLD YOU BACK"? :heh:

Jay is an emotional hater
 

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Kinda how I look at it. Did anyone really expect beans to be some big crossover artist? He lacks any sort of mainstream appeal.

Now in terms of Hov "holding him back," I do believe that Jay probably sharked some songs, beats, features, etc. that were probably meant for beans but once Hov heard them he was like nah i'mma grab this for myself. But I guarantee you there was no ego trippin about "beans might become bigger than me!" b/c it just wasn't going to happen.

From his track record Jay definitely has an ego problem.
 
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From his track record Jay definitely has an ego problem.

Fair, I just don't think there was ever concern that beans would be bigger. Maybe more of some big bro-ing type of moves, like "nah this beat should be mine, beans would just waste it rappin bout eating prison food"
 
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