Dwyane Wade to the Cavs for 1-year, $2.3M

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Earl is still starting

DWade is still coming off the bench

Clowns tagging me for being right

 

[GilSho]

That D Wade, Bron, Korver trio has been murdering teams lol. Have to hold my hands up & admit I was wrong, thought he was done as a high level player.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

That D Wade, Bron, Korver trio has been murdering teams lol. Have to hold my hands up & admit I was wrong, thought he was done as a high level player.

Except he is.

 

[Broad Street Bully]

So what happens after this stretch and that nikka starts stinking that shyt up again? Do we bump again and tag nikkas again?

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

So what happens after this stretch and that nikka starts stinking that shyt up again? Do we bump again and tag nikkas again?

Yeah, I mean Wade's been playing well over this recent stretch, mostly because he still has great instincts and BBIQ (one thing which will never leave him), but you've gotta be fooling yourself if you haven't noticed A LOT of Larry Holmes play from him. He's good in the role he's in because he can ease himself into the game against second units, but he doesn't have it in him to have a sustained level of high play as a starter anymore.

There's a reason why he looks better coming off the bench.

 

[Mandizi]

Deal is looking like a steal. Only going to get better when IT returns.

 

[O.G.B]

Earl is still starting

DWade is still coming off the bench

Whether Wade started over J.R or came off the bench was never a contention of mine, so quit trying to spin another one of your abject L's into a win.

Clowns tagging me for being right

No bytch, you got tagged because you were completely WRONG about D Wade's being able to perform as he has this year with the Cavs.

He's really not. At least JR can stretch the floor and hit shots and play defense sporadically. Wade really can't do any of that.

You obviously didn't watch too many Bulls games last season. As inconsistent as JR is on defense (I've mentioned this at least three times in this thread), he's still better than Wade at this point in their respective careers.

You say that JR is undisciplined; giving away silly fouls while running through screens or fouling shooters - well at least he's trying to defend. Wade doesn't even bother to chase players around screens regularly, Wade doesn't even bother to contest shots regularly, Wade doesn't even bother to close out regularly. Wade doesn't even bother to get back in transition situations regularly, Wade doesn't even bother to help on PnR regularly.

There are many things that Wade doesn't and can't do on defense anymore, whereas at least JR tries to do those things and at times has success at doing them.

We all knew this was coming. Cavs might end up having a worse defense than last season.

Woman. Fire. Water. Cave. Wade. Cavs. Bad. Defense.

I hate to break it to you, but Wade is no longer that guy. This ain't '94 Joe, we can't go back. Smith is still a 1000x better shooter than Wade, and he's a better defender than Wade.

He's really not. At least JR can stretch the floor and hit shots and play defense sporadically. Wade really can't do any of that.

Even @ISO told you:

An engaged Wade with less of an offensive burden is a better defensive player than J.R. Smith.

He didn't give a fukk he played on a treadmill team and didn't get along with the young players. Him not getting back in transition and allowing cuts is pure laziness and lack of desire.

D-Wade still got physical tools and instincts, if the effort is there, he will be able to impact the game defensively. His offensive burden will be the smallest it's been in his career which should lead to a more rested D-Wade.

We gon see that's all I got to say

@Gil Scott-Heroin response

 

[G-Zeus]

Whether Wade started over J.R or came off the bench was never a contention of mine, so quit trying to spin another one of your abject L's into a win.



No bytch, you got tagged because you were completely WRONG about D Wade's being able to perform as he has this year with the Cavs.





















Even @ISO told you:







@Gil Scott-Heroin response

Only thing though is .. this stretch is mainly against average and bad team.... they wikl still need a center for the gsw and spurs of this world... heck they got it worse with AD and Boogie..

 

[O.G.B]

Only thing though is .. this stretch is mainly against average and bad team....

True, but this still doesn't diminish what Wade has done for the Cavs as he's one of the reasons they've been able to turn their defensive woes from earlier in the season around.

they wikl still need a center for the gsw and spurs of this world... .

Agreed!

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Whether Wade started over J.R or came off the bench was never a contention of mine, so quit trying to spin another one of your abject L's into a win.

But it was of mine, which is why I have been proven right, and the Cavs look better with Wade coming off the bench. All posts of which were in the context of Wade starting v. coming off the bench.

I was right.

No bytch, you got tagged because you were completely WRONG about D Wade's being able to perform as he has this year with the Cavs.

How stupid do you look? J.R.'s still the BETTER defender, which is partly the reason why he's starting because he can take the heaviest guard defensive reps (which Wade can no longer do). Just because Wade has a block/steal here and there, doesn't make him the better defender. And why did you quote a post of mine that said 'the Cavs might end up with a worse defense than last season', when they currently have a worse defense compared to last year?

Upp quotes that make you look stupid brehs.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Ohh, I'm gonna enjoy tagging muh'fukkas in the playoffs.

 

[KRiLL (+)]

Whether Wade started over J.R or came off the bench was never a contention of mine, so quit trying to spin another one of your abject L's into a win.



No bytch, you got tagged because you were completely WRONG about D Wade's being able to perform as he has this year with the Cavs.





















Even @ISO told you:







@Gil Scott-Heroin response

homie got dem receipts...

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Wade goes to the bench, JR starts and the Cavs look better

JR starts and stretches the floor on offense; opening up space + provide shooting for the Cavs 1st unit

JR starts and takes the heaviest guard defensive reps, which allows Wade to come off the bench to run the second unit and ease into the game.


@Gil Scott-Heroin was right.

 

[O.G.B]

All posts of which were in the context of Wade starting v. coming off the bench.

As expected, more CONVOLUTED excuses from @Gil Scott-Heroin trying to deflect from his L.

Just because Wade has a block/steal here and there, doesn't make him the better defender.

But D Wade has a BETTER defensive rating than J.R Smith this year.

How stupid do you look? J.R.'s still the BETTER defender, which is partly the reason why he's starting because he can take the heaviest guard defensive reps (which Wade can no longer do).

J.R. Smith's horrid defense at the center of Cleveland Cavaliers' early struggles
Updated Oct 30; Posted Oct 30
By Chris Fedor, cleveland.com

Cleveland Cavaliers guard JR Smith has gotten off to a slow start this season.(John Kuntz, cleveland.com)


CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Plenty has been written about J.R. Smith's offensive struggles, a troubling carryover from 2016-17. But Smith's horrid defense is even more detrimental to the struggling Cleveland Cavaliers.

In each of the seven games -- four of which have been losses -- the Cavs have gotten thrashed by opposing wings. That's Smith's primary responsibility, once labeled the team's best perimeter defender. During training camp, Lue excitedly mentioned Smith's defense during last season's postseason series against Indiana's Paul George and Toronto's DeMar DeRozan and was looking forward to having Smith take the responsibility once again.

But like many things for the new-look Cavs, it hasn't quite gone according to plan.

Early on, Smith is one of the league's worst defenders. Off-the-dribble blow-bys. Baffling fouls. Back-door cuts. Off-ball movement leading to outside jumpers. A lack of communication with his teammates. It's all been apparent.

His defensive rating of 115.8 currently ranks 372nd out of 412 players. For perspective, he had a 108.1 defensive rating last regular season, and boasted a similar number in the playoffs.

In Sunday's loss, Tim Hardaway Jr. was the latest to victimize Smith. The Knicks off-season addition scored 34 points on 11-of-19 from the field and 5-of-10 from 3-point range. He also tied his career-high with eight assists.

J.R. Smith's horrid defense at the center of Cleveland Cavaliers' early struggles

And why did you quote a post of mine that said 'the Cavs might end up with a worse defense than last season', when they currently have a worse defense compared to last year?

4. Cleveland Cavaliers Defensive Rating - 108.0 (2017/2018 Regular Season)

5. Cleveland Cavaliers Defensive Rating - 108.0 (2016/2017 Regular Season)


WRONG AGAIN JILL!

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

But D Wade has a BETTER defensive rating than J.R Smith this year.

That's not how defensive rating works you idiot. Defensive rating is based on the lineups you're in - not your individual defense (unless you're a defensive anchor, then with the appropriate context it can be used). DWade comes off the bench, therefore he faces WORSE offensive lineups. If JR continued to come off the bench, and DWade was the starter, JR would have the better defensive rating.

Do you not see almost all of the bench players have the best DRTGs, whereas the starters have the worst?

Jeff Green has a better defensive rating than LeBron - does that mean Green is a better defender than LeBron?

Channing Frye has a better defensive rating than LeBron - does that mean Frye is a better defender than LeBron?

Kyle Korver has a better defensive rating than LeBron - does that mean Korver is a better defender than LeBron?

Jose Calderon has a better defensive rating than LeBron - does that mean Calderon is a better defender than LeBron?

4. Cleveland Cavaliers Defensive Rating - 108.0 (2017/2018 Regular Season)

5. Cleveland Cavaliers Defensive Rating - 108.0 (2016/2017 Regular Season)


WRONG AGAIN JILL!

First of all, the league-wide ORTG was higher last season, therefore by standard the Cavs had a BETTER defensive rating last season.

Second of all:

League /// Stats /// Cleaning the Glass (sans garbage time/possessions at the end of quarters) - last season in full, the Cavs had a 110.2 DRTG

League /// Stats /// Cleaning the Glass (sans garbage time/possessions at the end of quarters) - this season, the Cavs have a 110.5 DRTG

Furthermore, compared to this time last season:

They had 104.7 DRTG this time last season - ranked 17th in the league - Teams Advanced

They have a 108 DRTG this season - ranked 25th in the league - Teams Advanced

Not only were you wrong trying to up that quote (why would you quote it in the first place, if you were going to post DRTGs that were identical?), not only were you wrong quoting DRTGs without the proper context, but you were wrong also because this time last season they had a better defensive rating too.