Dwight Howard is being exposed as a fraud and is not a max contract player

[FTBS]

Nah, we can judge it because even if they were all making $3 million more that wouldn't be enough. The franchise guys and top 15 are worth a lot more than what they are paid, Pau should not be making $1 million less than Dirk.

Bron & Kobe are realistically worth $50-70 million a season, Howard would have gotten $35-40 million, prime Wade around the same, Bosh would have been $20-25 million.

Exactly. The impact of a true superstar in basketball cannot be overstated. These 2nd tier guys shouldn't even be close. The funny thing is that the teaming up that many have expressed faux outrage over wouldn't be possible if teams could truly pay guys what they are worth. You think Bron woulda passed up $500 million over 10 years from Cleveland to go to MIA for $90 mil? Hell naw. However if they can only give him $120 mil why not go to MIA and play with your boys? Same with Dwight. That nikkas would still be crankin in ORL if they coulda paid him his true worth. Nobody would ever leave the team that drafted them if the league let the teams pay them their worth.

 

[threattonature]

Exactly. The impact of a true superstar in basketball cannot be overstated. These 2nd tier guys shouldn't even be close. The funny thing is that the teaming up that many have expressed faux outrage over wouldn't be possible if teams could truly pay guys what they are worth. You think Bron woulda passed up $500 million over 10 years from Cleveland to go to MIA for $90 mil? Hell naw. However if they can only give him $120 mil why not go to MIA and play with your boys? Same with Dwight. That nikkas would still be crankin in ORL if they coulda paid him his true worth. Nobody would ever leave the team that drafted them if the league let the teams pay them their worth.

Exactly what I was saying during the lockout. The true solution is to eliminate the max salary to spread talent around the league. The problem is I don't think the player's association would every go for it since it would only affect like less than 1% of the players and they no the NBA's middle class would take the biggest hit.

I remember Kobe originally being one of like 5 or 10 players along with Garnett that voted against instituting max contracts originally since he knew that would fukk with his future earnings.

 

[kingofnyc]

That is exactly what I am saying. At 23 Bron was avg 30, 8, 7 and coming off carrying a squad to the Finals. At 23 Dwight was giving you 21, 14, and 3 blks, he won his 2nd rebounding title and was en route to carrying the Magic to the Finals. At 23 Kobe had two rings and had just put up damn near 30 a night in the playoffs en route to that second ring. Meanwhile Lopez is a center who can't give you 10 boards. Hibbert is a center who can't give you 20 pts. And Harden disappeared in the Finals last year and prior to the contract had made his name as a 3rd option coming off the bench. Not exactly comparable there my man.

im not comparing them *dat would be crazy*
-lopez, hibbert & harden are either da best or 2nd best players on their team... and all of them got offers from other teams to sign them for a max deal
homie its 30 teams in this league while only a few top notch players
and those 2nd teir players are gonna eat as good as da top
dats main reason for having a salary cap

Nah, we can judge it because even if they were all making $3 million more that wouldn't be enough. The franchise guys and top 15 are worth a lot more than what they are paid, Pau should not be making $1 million less than Dirk.

Bron & Kobe are realistically worth $50-70 million a season, Howard would have gotten $35-40 million, prime Wade around the same, Bosh would have been $20-25 million.

i agree... but this is not baseball -its all about da cap

 

[thernbroom]

He's not 100%. When will you idiots realize that?

when is a player ever 100% fit

 

[Da_Eggman]

when is a player ever 100% fit

Lebron is

 

[Reid2Achieve]

He doesn't have any creativity in the post...also, I can't believe how many times a game he gets stripped. I knew he always had problems with turnovers, but I assumed it was offensive fouls and 3 second calls like many power big men.

But with that said, they need to involve him more. If he's engaged offensively, that would inspire more defense and rebounding effort.

 

[Ritzy Sharon]

meanwhile in mile high city .... Iggy just dropped 29, 6, 2 & 2 and played his typical suffocating, lock-down D on the other teams best perimeter player.

tell me who won that trade again. :pringles:

 

[dantheman9758]

Sas said he could go down as a top 5 center of all time

fright coward a top 5 all-time? Anderson Varajao is outplaying him this season. What top 5 center would ever let themselves be outplayed by Anderson Varajao?

 

[FTBS]

im not comparing them *dat would be crazy*
-lopez, hibbert & harden are either da best or 2nd best players on their team... and all of them got offers from other teams to sign them for a max deal
homie its 30 teams in this league while only a few top notch players
and those 2nd teir players are gonna eat as good as da top
dats main reason for having a salary cap

It may be crazy but that's exactly what this reads like.

aight, i see u understand
but u cant possibly be saying lopez & harden shouldnt be making da same amount as bron & co.... when they 23yrs old

what person u know is making the same salary as from 6yrs ago

You tried to make it an age issue and true max guys generally have demonstrated that they are max guys by the time they are 23 or have been in the league for 4 year.

The point is having max contracts is dumb. All it does it takes money out of the pockets of deserving true max guys and puts it in the pockets of 2nd tier or worse guys. Just because a guy is the best player on his team doesn't make him a max guy.

 

[FTBS]

Exactly what I was saying during the lockout. The true solution is to eliminate the max salary to spread talent around the league. The problem is I don't think the player's association would every go for it since it would only affect like less than 1% of the players and they no the NBA's middle class would take the biggest hit.

I remember Kobe originally being one of like 5 or 10 players along with Garnett that voted against instituting max contracts originally since he knew that would fukk with his future earnings.

Basically. It's ironic that the NBA would be the one sport with such a system that restricts what each individual can make when it's the one sport where an individual can have the most impact.

 

[kingofnyc]

It may be crazy but that's exactly what this reads like.



You tried to make it an age issue and true max guys generally have demonstrated that they are max guys by the time they are 23 or have been in the league for 4 year.

The point is having max contracts is dumb. All it does it takes money out of the pockets of deserving true max guys and puts it in the pockets of 2nd tier or worse guys. Just because a guy is the best player on his team doesn't make him a max guy.

1st off.... i didnt bring up age, u did

but i still dont understand ur beef -1 player max deal is not da same as another player max deal

for example brook lopez -just signed his max before da season started... he making only 13mill this year (its like 40 players under contract making more then him)
he's da leading scorer amoung all C & is top 5 in BS *imo he worth 13mill
while tyson chandler didnt get a max deal but is making more then lopez
dont let da words "max deal" cloud ur mind

 

[FTBS]

1st off.... i didnt bring up age, u did

but i still dont understand ur beef -1 player max deal is not da same as another player max deal

for example brook lopez -just signed his max before da season started... he making only 13mill this year (its like 40 players under contract making more then him)
he's da leading scorer amoung all C & is top 5 in BS *imo he worth 13mill
while tyson chandler didnt get a max deal but is making more then lopez
dont let da words "max deal" cloud ur mind

I don't have an issue with Lopez making his money. I have an issue with their being a limit on what truly max players can make.

BTW you were the first to mention age. I pointed to points in players careers and then you pulled 23 out of nowhere.

 

[minijump]

like some have already said.

no true centers in league.

close thread.