Draymond Green punched Jordan Poole: He apologized and will step away from the team a few day's

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Soft ass 00s and later born coli posters :pacspit: :pacspit: :pacspit:

So I guess you were cool when Rudy T got super socked on the court by an opposing player when he was just trying to break a fight up :childplease:
You nikkas lame as fukk for real
The same nikkas defending this shyt
Was the same nikkas saying Chris Rock needs his run back on Will:childplease:
This is the inconsistency I’m talking about on this bullshyt forum:childplease:
Dray literally said a Kendrick Lamar verse and tacked on Will Smith quote for good measure
This apology was just as dumb as all the posts in here talking about old NBA:childplease:
Let somebody

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Your goofy ass
You telling me you just walking away:childplease:
Let somebody do that to your son after probably meeting him at a team dinner
You telling me you just:manny:
Boys will be boys/Welcome to Manhood:hubie:
Ain’t no way boy
Ain’t no fukkin way and I pray for everybody in your family because you and the rest of these dummies are just that
Dummies:russ::unimpressed:
 
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So y’all grown men will allow a coworker or any man y’all know push u?


wtf is going with men these days
The push was a response to his aggression. From the looks of it, Draymond provoked it all really shouldn’t matter what was said before hand.

Draymond wanted to fire on him and got in his face to force him to guard his space. Sucker shyt IMO that little man was getting folded regardless
 
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Based on Dray’s track record with impulsive behavior? Nah. He’s arrogant as hell. That press conference was awful. He’s up there shunning therapy…Blaming his past…blaming personal issues at home…Bringing up that there was “no audio” and that the video was cut in a way that lacked a certain level of context. Publicly admitting that he can’t control himself as a man at 32 years old.

He put the organization in a corner here. The Warriors want to be known as a world class organization. I think that’s gotten lost here. If they allow Green to put back on a jersey what message does that send to the younger players? That it’s cool to swing on your “ brother” in that manner?

Winning by any means comes with a cost. I want to see how Bob Myers handles this.
But these things happen in a basketball/sports environment. It doesn't excuse what Draymond did, but it's common place, and teams move on from it. There is a precedent.

In fact, this is revered and romanticized when we speak about teams and players of the past. MJ punching Kerr is used to add to his legacy.

I have no doubts things of this magnitude have been present behind the scenes with this Warriors group, but they've managed to move past them. Obviously, the leaked footage adds a new dimension to this, but it's not a case where Draymond plotted to harm Poole beforehand (which would set off an entirely different set of circumstances). It all started because things got heated during a scrimmage, words were exchanged, and then it escalated into something physical. Whatever culpability Draymond had in what happened, it was still something that happened in the moment, on the court. The players would understand that shyt like this can occur, so they're not going to feel some type of way if the organization works towards a resolution where Draymond stays on the team (they're all well aware of how important he is to the franchise). The younger players would feel some type of way if this were someone on a 10-day contract and the Warriors didn't have him on the next thang smoking. As you know, and as I've repeated all throughout this thread, Draymond has been an integral component of one of the NBA's greatest dynasties, so his name carries the weight of that.

The Warriors attempting to keep this in-house should tell you all you need to know about what their intentions were. The Warriors allowing him to self-impose time away from the team should tell you all you need to know about what their intentions are. If they truly felt that Poole was in danger and/or this situation was beyond amends, the organization would've already been in the motion to remove Draymond, entirely.

Furthermore, it doesn't really make a whole lot of sense for the Warriors to get rid of him now (or not play him, at all); he's on an expiring and all this drama means whatever value he has is in purgatory. No team is going to give up anything of worth, at this stage or in the near future.

If you want a similar situation of this happening and how an organization went about it, look no further than when Bobby Portis punched Nikola Mirotic at practice (in 2017/18), breaking his jaw and leaving him incapacitated on the floor for a few minutes:

Mirotic returned to practice on Nov. 13 and the organization insisted he remain about his teammates, including Portis, to bridge any rifts there may be between the two sides, according to a report from the Chicago Sun Times.

As I said last week, [Mirotic is] still under contract. Both him and Bobby are. We’re trying to find a way to integrate Niko back in,” Paxson said. “But that’s going to take some time. He’s not ready to do any basketball activities yet other than he’s done some light shooting and that type of thing.He’s working on his conditioning. So this a process we’re still trying to work through. But as you can tell, he’s in the building and around the team now.”
Here Bobby is, a nobody in relation to what Draymond is to the Warriors, he broke his teammate's jaw and took him out of playing for an extensive period of time, and while he did get suspended for eight games, the Bulls organization still wanted to move past it with him on the team.

Draymond is likely going to be suspended too (if only for the hysteria that the leak footage has created), but Poole didn't get hurt (he was even getting up shots after the incident), and the Warriors have a lot more at stake and in play than what the Bulls did.
 

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NBA works with the FBI. They have folks who monitor bank accounts for fraudulent activity, or who suddenly get high bank deposits. A video rep making 50k suddenly hitting 150k it's a wrap. If by some miracle they can't be found that idiot still has to file taxes and claim it.

After the gambling scandal everyone probably has extra bank account scrutiny.

They will hire a digital forensic team and likely the facility has badge codes of who had access at the time to do this. Not to mention it's probably like 5-10 folks tops who are part of the video circle.

They ass is grass. Every league now is going to change their recording policy from here on out. There will be a security member personally watching the recording of all practices, etc.

That's not fraudulent activity though.
 

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NBA works with the FBI. They have folks who monitor bank accounts for fraudulent activity, or who suddenly get high bank deposits. A video rep making 50k suddenly hitting 150k it's a wrap. If by some miracle they can't be found that idiot still has to file taxes and claim it.

After the gambling scandal everyone probably has extra bank account scrutiny.

They will hire a digital forensic team and likely the facility has badge codes of who had access at the time to do this. Not to mention it's probably like 5-10 folks tops who are part of the video circle.

They ass is grass. Every league now is going to change their recording policy from here on out. There will be a security member personally watching the recording of all practices, etc.
Patriots will hire the guys the Warriors fire.
 

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The push was a response to his aggression. From the looks of it, Draymond provoked it all really shouldn’t matter what was said before hand.

Draymond wanted to fire on him and got in his face to force him to guard his space. Sucker shyt IMO that little man was getting folded regardless
hoopers Get in each other faces all the time. U don’t push someone with that much force and don’t expect a issue. Only a idiot would think shyt sweet after that
 

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When Dray was on a nut kicking spree and chirping at officials over the last few years the Coli LOVED it

Now he is a pariah...lmao

And we can dead the idea that y'all wanna see NBA players fight cause the way the media and fans have reacted to this is TELLING.....

Fights between basketballers is somehow viewed in a far more egregious way than nearly any other mainstream sport

And this is why fights dont break out on court because suddenly everyone is yapping about conduct, sportsmanship, oh the children, blah blah blah....
These usually all cap coli blood thirsty nikkas is all of a sudden squeamish :huhldup:
 
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But these things happen in a basketball/sports environment. It doesn't excuse what Draymond did, but it's common place, and teams move on from it. There is a precedent.

In fact, this is revered and romanticized when we speak about teams and players of the past. MJ punching Kerr is used to add to his legacy.

I have no doubts things of this magnitude have been present behind the scenes with this Warriors group, but they've managed to move past them. Obviously, the leaked footage adds a new dimension to this, but it's not a case where Draymond plotted to harm Poole beforehand (which would set off an entirely different set of circumstances). It all started because things got heated during a scrimmage, words were exchanged, and then it escalated into something physical. Whatever culpability Draymond had in what happened, it was still something that happened in the moment, on the court. The players would understand that shyt like this can occur, so they're not going to feel some type of way if the organization works towards a resolution where Draymond stays on the team (they're all well aware of how important he is to the franchise). The younger players would feel some type of way if this were someone on a 10-day contract and the Warriors didn't have him on the next thang smoking. As you know, and as I've repeated all throughout this thread, Draymond has been an integral component of one of the NBA's greatest dynasties, so his name carries the weight of that.

The Warriors attempting to keep this in-house should tell you all you need to know about what their intentions were. The Warriors allowing him to self-impose time away from the team should tell you all you need to know about what their intentions are. If they truly felt that Poole was in danger and/or this situation was beyond amends, the organization would've already been in the motion to remove Draymond, entirely.

Furthermore, it doesn't really make a whole lot of sense for the Warriors to get rid of him now (or not play him, at all); he's on an expiring and all this drama means whatever value he has is in purgatory. No team is going to give up anything of worth, at this stage or in the near future.

If you want a similar situation of this happening and how an organization went about it, look no further than when Bobby Portis punched Nikola Mirotic at practice (in 2017/18), breaking his jaw and leaving him incapacitated on the floor for a few minutes:


Here Bobby is, a nobody in relation to what Draymond is to the Warriors, he broke his teammate's jaw and took him out of playing for an extensive period of time, and while he did get suspended for eight games, the Bulls organization still wanted to move past it with him on the team.

Draymond is likely going to be suspended too (if only for the hysteria that the leak footage has created), but Poole didn't get hurt (he was even getting up shots after the incident), and the Warriors have a lot more at stake and in play than what the Bulls did.

You already know you can’t include Portis/Niko or MJ/Kerr as precedents in this because neither played out like this publicly. There were no videos. Optics have changed. No one gave a fukk about this until a video was leaked. That makes a world of difference.

Did you watch the press conference yet? Dray made an absolute fool of himself. Breh made a clear case for himself needing therapy. The Warriors have done nothing but enable and strengthen his behavior. It’s grown worse over time. There was no real remorse there.

The Warriors attempting to keep this in house is just a reflection on Myers and the ownership group. They’ve allowed Dray to toe that habitual line. fukk toeing. Dray is outside on that line mad comfortable. Only thing missing from that presser was a cuban cigar and a glass of Glenlivet.

I don’t know much about Jordan Poole as a man. I don’t know what the past 3 days or so have been like for him. I don’t know a man in real life that could just go on working with someone like that like it didn’t happen. You swung on me like a stranger or like your life was in danger. It’s on the net. Forever.
 

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But these things happen in a basketball/sports environment. It doesn't excuse what Draymond did, but it's common place, and teams move on from it. There is a precedent.

In fact, this is revered and romanticized when we speak about teams and players of the past. MJ punching Kerr is used to add to his legacy.

I have no doubts things of this magnitude have been present behind the scenes with this Warriors group, but they've managed to move past them. Obviously, the leaked footage adds a new dimension to this, but it's not a case where Draymond plotted to harm Poole beforehand (which would set off an entirely different set of circumstances). It all started because things got heated during a scrimmage, words were exchanged, and then it escalated into something physical. Whatever culpability Draymond had in what happened, it was still something that happened in the moment, on the court. The players would understand that shyt like this can occur, so they're not going to feel some type of way if the organization works towards a resolution where Draymond stays on the team (they're all well aware of how important he is to the franchise). The younger players would feel some type of way if this were someone on a 10-day contract and the Warriors didn't have him on the next thang smoking. As you know, and as I've repeated all throughout this thread, Draymond has been an integral component of one of the NBA's greatest dynasties, so his name carries the weight of that.

The Warriors attempting to keep this in-house should tell you all you need to know about what their intentions were. The Warriors allowing him to self-impose time away from the team should tell you all you need to know about what their intentions are. If they truly felt that Poole was in danger and/or this situation was beyond amends, the organization would've already been in the motion to remove Draymond, entirely.

Furthermore, it doesn't really make a whole lot of sense for the Warriors to get rid of him now (or not play him, at all); he's on an expiring and all this drama means whatever value he has is in purgatory. No team is going to give up anything of worth, at this stage or in the near future.

If you want a similar situation of this happening and how an organization went about it, look no further than when Bobby Portis punched Nikola Mirotic at practice (in 2017/18), breaking his jaw and leaving him incapacitated on the floor for a few minutes:


Here Bobby is, a nobody in relation to what Draymond is to the Warriors, he broke his teammate's jaw and took him out of playing for an extensive period of time, and while he did get suspended for eight games, the Bulls organization still wanted to move past it with him on the team.

Draymond is likely going to be suspended too (if only for the hysteria that the leak footage has created), but Poole didn't get hurt (he was even getting up shots after the incident), and the Warriors have a lot more at stake and in play than what the Bulls did.
I hear you bruh but it's not the same.
 
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You already know you can’t include Portis/Niko or MJ/Kerr as precedents in this because neither played out like this publicly. There were no videos. Optics have changed. No one gave a fukk about this until a video was leaked. That makes a world of difference.
Do you think that if there were video footage of MJ punching Kerr it would've made any difference? Do you think the Bulls would've got rid of him? Do you think it would've had the masses viewing MJ and the Bulls organization any differently?

This is the same guy whose narcissism is celebrated. Actual video proof of him punching a teammate would only add to his folklore.

This has only really become the issue it has, because of how polarizing Draymond is. If this were someone that everyone liked, and/or was a superstar caliber player, the reception would be a lot more measured, but because it's him, and because most folks despise him, the overwhelming response is naturally going to be in anticipation of him suffering the harshest penalty (in the context of this team).

Which emphasizes another point of this being a sum of the Warriors dominating for so long and everyone wanting it to end. If this were everyone's favorite team, with players they loved, the reception would be more reasonable and favorable towards Draymond surviving this; but he's been the butt of jokes and buried alive in vitriol more than any other player in recent memory.

He's a villain, and everyone wants to see the villain die at the end of the film.

What do you think is most likely to occur:

Draymond only getting suspended, with the team looking to find a resolution and moving forward
Draymond not playing in a Warriors jersey ever again.

If your answer is the former, well, I rest my case. If your answer is the latter, well, I think you're getting caught up in the hysteria of the moment.

:manny:
 

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Do you think that if there were video footage of MJ punching Kerr it would've made any difference? Do you think the Bulls would've got rid of him? Do you think it would've had the masses viewing MJ and the Bulls organization any differently?

This is the same guy whose narcissism is celebrated. Actual video proof of him punching a teammate would only add to his folklore.

This has only really become the issue it has, because of how polarizing Draymond is. If this were someone that everyone liked, and/or was a superstar caliber player, the reception would be a lot more measured, but because it's him, and because most folks despise him, the overwhelming response is naturally going to be in anticipation of him suffering the harshest penalty (in the context of this team).

Which emphasizes another point of this being a sum of the Warriors dominating for so long and everyone wanting it to end. If this were everyone's favorite team, with players they loved, the reception would be more reasonable and favorable towards Draymond surviving this, but he's been the butt of jokes and buried alive in vitriol more than any other player in recent memory.

He's a villain, and everyone wants to see the villain die at the end of the film.

What do you think is most likely to occur:

Draymond only getting suspended, with the team looking to find a resolution and moving forward
Draymond not playing in a Warriors jersey ever again.

If your answer is the former, well, I rest my case. If your answer is the latter, well, I think you're getting caught up in the hysteria of the moment.

:manny:

I’m shelving this convo. You not just gon hop, skip, and step over the points i’m bringing up. We’ll see how this plays out.
 
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I’m shelving this convo. You not just gon hop, skip, and step over the points i’m bringing up. We’ll see how this plays out.
That's cool if you want to shelve it, but I'm not hopping, skipping and stepping over anything.

Your perception of him making a fool out of himself in the press conference isn't going to affect whatever decision the Warriors make. That's why I don't believe there was any point to addressing that; your perception of it and my perception of it is irrelevant. I only addressed what I thought was necessary. Arguing about minutiae or cycling back over points that have already been debated is futile.

I'm only arguing against what is relevant here; I'm only debating purely in the frame of what I believe will most likely play out, and absolutely nothing to with whatever preference you believe I show for him. I wouldn't argue about everything and anything if I operated that way. At the end of the day, as much as I am a fan of his basketball play, I have never made any excuse or defended him for anything I'd deem a foul for any other player (I've even called him out on a number of times for his Klutch shenanigans).

See you on the other side.
 
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