Draymond Green punched Jordan Poole: He apologized and will step away from the team a few day's

[jaguar paw]

That's cool if you want to shelve it, but I'm not hopping, skipping and stepping over anything.

Your perception of him making a fool out of himself in the press conference isn't going to affect whatever decision the Warriors make. That's why I don't believe there was any point to addressing that; your perception of it and my perception of it is irrelevant. I only addressed what I thought was necessary. Arguing about minutiae or cycling back over points that have already been debated is futile.

I'm only arguing against what is relevant here; I'm only debating purely in the frame of what I believe will most likely play out, and absolutely nothing to with whatever preference you believe I show for him. I wouldn't argue about everything and anything if I operated that way. At the end of the day, as much as I am a fan of his basketball play, I have never made any excuse or defended him for anything I'd deem a foul for any other player (I've even called him out on a number of times for his Klutch shenanigans).

See you on the other side.

You know good and god damn well if MJ was on camera violently swinging at white ass Steve Kerr and connecting. Buckling his knees in the process that it would of changed the ark of basketball history. This is still America.

It doesn’t make any sense to bring that shyt up.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

When Dray was on a nut kicking spree and chirping at officials over the last few years the Coli LOVED it

Now he is a pariah...lmao

And we can dead the idea that y'all wanna see NBA players fight cause the way the media and fans have reacted to this is TELLING.....

Fights between basketballers is somehow viewed in a far more egregious way than nearly any other mainstream sport

And this is why fights dont break out on court because suddenly everyone is yapping about conduct, sportsmanship, oh the children, blah blah blah....

Man.. aint nobody on the Coli ever love Dray


Last time I remember majority Coli showing him love was when he was shytting on Paul Pierce

 

[Pure Water]

This shyt really not that serious.

 

[Pure Water]

Y'all know what I forgot about and I know y'all forgot about already? Antmans comment about gay people. This shyt will blow over in a couple weeks just like everything else.

 

[Bryan Danielson]

So I guess you were cool when Rudy T got super socked on the court by an opposing player when he was just trying to break a fight up
You nikkas lame as fukk for real
The same nikkas defending this shyt
Was the same nikkas saying Chris Rock needs his run back on Will
This is the inconsistency I’m talking about on this bullshyt forum
Dray literally said a Kendrick Lamar verse and tacked on Will Smith quote for good measure
This apology was just as dumb as all the posts in here talking about old NBA
Let somebody

Your goofy ass
You telling me you just walking away
Let somebody do that to your son after probably meeting him at a team dinner
You telling me you just
Boys will be boys/Welcome to Manhood
Ain’t no way boy
Ain’t no fukkin way and I pray for everybody in your family because you and the rest of these dummies are just that
Dummies

Chill breh…. No need to be disrespectful and name call. shyt is dangerous for you.

No not saying I’m a super tough or nothing… not saying I’ll put hands on you. But I ain’t the only with hands

@Lootpack will smack the shyt out of you if you keep on talking reckless so let’s relax. It’s not that serious.

 

[Bryan Danielson]

This shyt really not that serious.

Big facts…. These delusional coli brehs needs to be are how they talk to folk and just relax. No need to take shyt to places they really want it to go but do cuz they think they safe behind a keyboard

 

[Apprentice]

Soft ass 00s and later born coli posters

It’s the old nikkas the ones trippin tho

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

You know good and god damn well if MJ was on camera violently swinging at white ass Steve Kerr and connecting. Buckling his knees in the process that it would of changed the ark of basketball history. This is still America.

It doesn’t make any sense to bring that shyt up.

If that was remotely true, than why is the actual account of it used to glorify MJ's image? If folks have this account of a Black man slumping a white dude, then why isn't it ever brought up in argument against MJ's legacy? Why is every piece of narcissistic thread of MJ celebrated, no matter who it involves? What would a video change other than to amplify it?

Just look at how Kerr and Ernie talk about the incident -

Even Kerr, himself, frames it as if it were a teaching and bonding moment. He actually believes it helped their relationship. Here is two white men talking about it as if were some feel-good, coming-of-age story.

You had cats throwing punches and doing all types of dirty shyt during the 90s NBA (that's how that era is perceived, and why it's revered because of it's "toughness"), but you want me to believe there'd be a cosmic shift in how the world perceived arguably the greatest player of all-time, all because of the racial dynamic of him punching Kerr on video?

If The Last Dance showed unseen footage of MJ slumping him, do you think there'd be some crusade of white folks demanding that MJ get erased from the record books, or would everyone be busy making memes about it and talking about how MJ could've been a triple-sport athlete in basketball, baseball and boxing?

Again, this is why this frenzy as a result is less about the punch, and more about the perception of Draymond. He's always been seen as the angry Black man, well before this incident even occurred, which is why you have everyone in here bringing up his history. It's one of the main reasons why I've always stood in his corner, even when all these part-time keyboard militant muh'fukkas are on the other side dragging him up and down every thread. The joke writes itself.

MJ was never seen like that, which is why no punch caught on tape of a white player would've changed the perception of him. He's recognized as the sport's ultimate winner, and you know cotdamn well Amerikkka don't see him as a Black man because of that.

 

[///Vega+++]

In their eyes he's earned that right, don't you think?

This is why I believe they'll do all that they can to get past this and move on as they always intended to. Too much has come before and there's far too much at stake to abandon the ship now.

what you seem not to understand is that what's at stake is their integrity in regard to their so-called moral values

 

[Peter Parker]

Soft ass 00s and later born coli posters

ok BUT DRAYMOND fukkING SLEPT THAT nikka

 

[Street Messiah]

This shyt really not that serious.

It kind of is though. Poole has been embarrassed and draymond is looking for a max contract extension. How can max him after that ? If you do its slap in the face to poole (no pun). This shyt is not going away. Imagine you are poole, draymond rejoins the team and still does draymond things talkin shyt and barks on you in a nationally televised game. This is the same dude that slumped you in front of world. Are you trying to listen to this mofos shyt? Who would want to be in that position to take verbal abuse from a dude who assaulted them? That shyt aint going to work. Poole is not some scrub 12th man he played a bigger role than klay last year tbh. Even more of a reason not to put up with this shyt. Poole is their present and future and I dont see how you trust the front office if they treat this like its nothing. They wouldn't let him snuff steph thats for damn sure.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

what you seem not to understand is that what's at stake is their integrity in regard to their so-called moral values

They'll punish him as they see fit.

They've got more scope of this than anyone else; this only affects them and nobody else. Y'all need to come up off that moral high-horse speaking like Draymond has committed some unspeakable act and the Warriors are doing their best to hide it from the world.

 

[Thegospel]

Soft ass 00s and later born coli posters

Is this supposed to be similar to the Draymon fight?

 

[TEH]

Klutch Media training might be the worst in the business

“There was no audio” means “y’all didn’t hear him cursing me out and making me punch him”

Who allowed him to keep rambling up there

But these things happen in a basketball/sports environment. It doesn't excuse what Draymond did, but it's common place, and teams move on from it. There is a precedent.

In fact, this is revered and romanticized when we speak about teams and players of the past. MJ punching Kerr is used to add to his legacy.

I have no doubts things of this magnitude have been present behind the scenes with this Warriors group, but they've managed to move past them. Obviously, the leaked footage adds a new dimension to this, but it's not a case where Draymond plotted to harm Poole beforehand (which would set off an entirely different set of circumstances). It all started because things got heated during a scrimmage, words were exchanged, and then it escalated into something physical. Whatever culpability Draymond had in what happened, it was still something that happened in the moment, on the court. The players would understand that shyt like this can occur, so they're not going to feel some type of way if the organization works towards a resolution where Draymond stays on the team (they're all well aware of how important he is to the franchise). The younger players would feel some type of way if this were someone on a 10-day contract and the Warriors didn't have him on the next thang smoking. As you know, and as I've repeated all throughout this thread, Draymond has been an integral component of one of the NBA's greatest dynasties, so his name carries the weight of that.

The Warriors attempting to keep this in-house should tell you all you need to know about what their intentions were. The Warriors allowing him to self-impose time away from the team should tell you all you need to know about what their intentions are. If they truly felt that Poole was in danger and/or this situation was beyond amends, the organization would've already been in the motion to remove Draymond, entirely.

Furthermore, it doesn't really make a whole lot of sense for the Warriors to get rid of him now (or not play him, at all); he's on an expiring and all this drama means whatever value he has is in purgatory. No team is going to give up anything of worth, at this stage or in the near future.

If you want a similar situation of this happening and how an organization went about it, look no further than when Bobby Portis punched Nikola Mirotic at practice (in 2017/18), breaking his jaw and leaving him incapacitated on the floor for a few minutes:


Here Bobby is, a nobody in relation to what Draymond is to the Warriors, he broke his teammate's jaw and took him out of playing for an extensive period of time, and while he did get suspended for eight games, the Bulls organization still wanted to move past it with him on the team.

Draymond is likely going to be suspended too (if only for the hysteria that the leak footage has created), but Poole didn't get hurt (he was even getting up shots after the incident), and the Warriors have a lot more at stake and in play than what the Bulls did.

We got Draymond’s lawyer in the thread y’all.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

They wouldn't let him snuff steph thats for damn sure.

Well, that's because Poole isn't Steph, and Steph would never escalate something to the point where Draymond would react like that. Poole is an infamous trash talker, and has been since day one, to anyone and everyone. Now, that's not in any way excusing what Draymond did, that's just to put into context that despite whatever differences Steph, Klay and Dray have had along the way, it hasn't come to a point where they push each other to the point of no return.

Poole doesn't understand those boundaries. Or maybe he did, and wanted to see what would happened if he stepped over them.

Unfortunately, for himself and the team, he pushed the wrong buttons that day. He'll think twice next time after shoving someone, that they won't fire back with hands, especially with someone of Draymond's temperament.

It's strange to me that we're talking about this as if this was a calculated act by Draymond, unprovoked, and not a shared responsibility altercation that is common in team sport environments. Yes, he should know better given his senior position on the team, but what would be the reception if Poole was the one who slumped him? Would anyone be as forthcoming to sympathize with him, or would they say he had it coming?