Draymond Green punched Jordan Poole: He apologized and will step away from the team a few day's

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What has changed to where you believe this still isn't the case?

Their decline is inevitable, given that Steph, Klay and Dray are all at the tail-end of their respective careers, I'm just trying to work out how this incident is going to alter their course, when they've been through their fair share of dramas over the last better part of a decade, and lived to tell the tale.

I'm just questioning why you believe their culture is "on trial" as if this is their one and only hiccup? They've had more setbacks and overcome them than almost every single dynasty in NBA history; they've managed to reinvent themselves and retool multiple times when everyone counted them out, over and over, and over again.

It comes down to how management handles the situation, and if they can make everyone happy and winning on the court again.

Draymond has been treated like a special needs child his whole career in GS. Grown people making excuses for another (rich) grown man's behavior, because "that's just Draymond".

This strategy is what's on trial.

If they start losing more than expected, and/or this Poole Green funk continues into the season, "the culture" will be the topic of the sports media.
 

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It's kind of funny, reading these posts in here, gives me déjà vu of that KD-Draymond soap opera back in 2019, with all the immediate overreactions and everyone thinking it was the end.
I guess we’ll all see how it plays out but this situation feels way different than that KD shyt. Draymond didn’t fire off on KD and there wasn’t a video for the world to see. It’s humiliating for Poole.
 
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I wish I could BLOCK all the posts about "sucker punch" or fighting rules of engagement. They clogging up the thread.
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There's many more interesting points to discuss about this situation.

  1. What will the Warriors front office do now? Will they backpedal, apply gas, or stay put?
  2. Who leaked the video, and why? Just for money or to hurt Dray and the Dubs?
  3. How will Poole bounce back? Will he be able to play with Dray, or will he push for a trade? Will his confidence be the same, or irreparably damaged?
  4. Will Dray actually take full responsibility and humble himself? He's never been able to do this before, even when he's been dead wrong. What will New Media say publicly?
  5. Does this make the Warriors decision easier about who they pay max money to? They were heading into some tough decisions next year, and someone was going to be disappointed.
  6. Does the young group of future stars look at Dray different now? Will they reject his "leadership"?
  7. Will Dray be suspended for the ring ceremony game?
  8. How will the home crowd receive both Dray and Jordan? What kind of reception will they get?
...and I'm sure there's other angles.
I’m actually curious about what the other vets think particularly Steph, Iggy, and Klay. Has anyone beside Iggy commented? I suspect they’ll keep it in-house but it would be interesting to hear their perspective. Them along with Dray have formed this Warriors core which have been the driving force behind this dynasty.

I also want to know what was actually going on that led to the punch. This is going to make a good part in that Warriors doc that eventually comes out.

Will opposing players exploit this situation? What kind of signs will petty fans have at Warriors away games especially if Poole and Dray continue to be on the same team?
 

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I’m actually curious about what the other vets think particularly Steph, Iggy, and Klay. Has anyone beside Iggy commented? I suspect they’ll keep it in-house but it would be interesting to hear their perspective. Them along with Dray have formed this Warriors core which have been the driving force behind this dynasty.

I also want to know what was actually going on that led to the punch. This is going to make a good part in that Warriors doc that eventually comes out.

Will opposing players exploit this situation? What kind of signs will petty fans have at Warriors away games especially if Poole and Dray continue to be on the same team?
Steph was pissed at the presser yesterday and Marcus Thompson, the #1 Steph source in Warriors media, wrote a pretty scathing indictment on Green's status in the lockerroom after the video, so that should give you an idea of how he feels.
 
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I guess we’ll all see how it plays out but this situation feels way different than that KD shot. Draymond didn’t fire off on KD and there wasn’t a video for the world to see. It’s humiliating for Poole.
You don't think it was humiliating for KD when Draymond told him "We don't need you. We won without you." for all the world to witness? Some would argue it's even more so.

I don't think it's any different, and I don't think it's anything this squad can't overcome. They've been through worse times.

Many thought the Warriors couldn't get past that, and they did, where only injuries stopped them from winning that season. Whatever happens this season, the Warriors' championship hopes are not going to be decided by this. I said earlier in the thread, but in 1-2 months time, this will be forgotten, and there'll be some other fukkery that occupies our minds.

The fact this happened before the season even begun should give even more credence to them working towards moving past this, and it being a distant memory by the time the postseason rolls around.
It comes down to how management handles the situation, and if they can make everyone happy and winning on the court again.

Draymond has been treated like a special needs child his whole career in GS. Grown people making excuses for another (rich) grown man's behavior, because "that's just Draymond".

This strategy is what's on trial.

If they start losing more than expected, and/or this Poole Green funk continues into the season, "the culture" will be the topic of the sports media.
The '00s Lakers went through similar shyt
The '90s Bulls went through similar shyt.

What folks have to understand is, this is all too common place in competitive team sports, and these guys learn to function together even if they don't fukk with one another (the dynamic between the Bulls and Rodman is the best example of this). Draymond and Poole don't need to be the best of friends or coexist outside of basketball for the team to move forward, they just need to get the shyt straight on the floor, and they've given us no doubts they can't do that. They've won four titles, and built one of the greatest dynasties operating in this manner; with Draymond's suspension in 2016, Draymond getting it into with KD in 2019, and every other instance that Draymond has been at the center of.

I don't see the sense in stating this strategy is on trial. They've literally won more games with this core than any team in history with Draymond being the way he is.

They've beat the case long ago.

If they start losing more than expected, well, that'll likely be the path they were always going to go down, regardless, if this incident happened or not. There'll inevitably come a time when this team falls off, due to age, wear and tear and/or where the group just doesn't function together like they once did for whatever reason (playing groups can grow apart).
 
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That's been reaction every time I've seen you post about Draymond for the last 7-8 years.

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Criticizing his behavior from what we know is fair game. I ain't got no issue with that. But I'm going to call a foul on theories which are shoehorned only out of spite. I get it though, this is like Christmas for a lot of y'all on here who see Draymond getting himself stuck in the chimney, once again.
 
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I like Draymond but that video is ridiculous. Wow. Like brehs said, Jordan Poole is gonna have this hanging over his head for the rest of his career. If Dray don't get a SERIOUS punishment for this, Jordan should leave and take his talents elsewhere. The only way he can KIND OF get out from under the cloud of this whole thing is to face GS on the court and drop 50 on they head. Other than that, this makes him look like a joke. And I know that as a young dude with an ego, he's feeling it right now.
 
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