Draymond Green kicks dirt on Gold Medalist track star Noah Lyles

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The Olympics is a qualifying tournament for the World Championships as well. :dahell:

Edit: that changed after 2015.
Winning the Olympics used to automatically get you a spot in the FIBA World Championship, yeah, but in order to get a spot in next Olympics, you need to win the FIBA tournament or perform the best in your region. It was champion's advantage; that doesn't really make it a qualifying tournament.
 

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I agree with Noah and agree with you, but I don’t think winning the Olympics makes you a world champ, makes you an Olympic champ. I think to be called a world champion you have to win the FIBA Basketball World Cup which Germany is the champion of currently.

Now if the NBA champion played against some of the top teams from South America and Europe and won a tournament then I think that is fair to call them the world champions. For the record an NBA team would in fact smoke a European or South American team, but until you play other parts of the world it is hard to say you are the best in the world.
This some cracker semantics shyt. The best don’t play in Fiba because our guys don’t waste their time.
 

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Winning the Olympics used to automatically get you a spot in the FIBA World Championship, yeah, but in order to get an automatic spot in the next Olympics, you need to win that tournament. It was champion's advantage; that doesn't really make it a qualifying tournament.
I think the point is you qualify via winning the global championship.

I think they should scrap that all together going forward and probably will seeing how they move.
 

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I think the point is you qualify via winning the global championship.

I think they should scrap that all together going forward and probably will seeing how they move.
But the FIBA world cup itself is preceded by a whole other qualifying tournament. Team USA for example, has to compete in the Americup. Winning the last gold medal essentially gave you a first round-bye. You skipped the regional tournament and go straight to the FIBA tournament.
 

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But the FIBA world cup itself is preceded by a whole other qualifying tournament. Team USA for example, has to compete in the Americup. Winning the last gold medal essentially gave you a first round-bye. You skipped the regional tournament and go straight to the FIBA tournament.
It didn’t used to be that way. That changed after the 2014 tournament.

The FIBA tournament was the bigger deal tournament until the NBA players got involved. Before that, the winner of the global tournament was automatically qualified for the next global tournament.
 

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It didn’t used to be that way. That changed after the 2014 tournament.

The FIBA tournament was the bigger deal tournament until the NBA players got involved. Before that, the winner of the global tournament was automatically qualified for the next global tournament.
Nah, the Continental cups were always the qualifier for the FIBA tournament; but before 2015, the gold medalists skipped it.

How it worked before was there was a continental cup to qualify for FIBA. If you won the continental cup but lost the FIBA world championships, you had to compete in another continental cup to qualify for the Olympics. Between 1992 and 2019, the only continental cups USA had to compete in were '99 (after losing FIBA in 98 because of the lockout), 03 (after losing FIBA in 02), 05 (after losing the Olympics in 04) and '07 (after losing FIBA in 2006)
 
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Nah, they blacked out on the 3x3 USA Team
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C'mon man
 

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Nah, the Continental cups were always the qualifier for the FIBA tournament; but before 2015, the gold medalists skipped it.

How it worked before was there was a continental cup to qualify for FIBA. If you won the continental cup but lost the FIBA world championships, you had to compete in another continental cup to qualify for the Olympics. Between 1992 and 2019, the only continental cups USA had to compete in were '99 (after losing FIBA in 98 because of the lockout), 03 (after losing FIBA in 02), 05 (after losing the Olympics in 04) and '07 (after losing FIBA in 2006)
No, I’m saying the global champion tournament was automatically qualified for the next.
 

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No, I’m saying the global champion tournament was automatically qualified for the next.
But I think that changed after the Dream Team. Remember, the Dream Team themselves had to compete in the 1992 tournament of Americas to qualify for the Olympics because the previous team USA lost FIBA in 1990. Then they skipped the 1993 Americas tournament and went straight to FIBA '94, and by winning that they skipped the 95 tournament and went straight to the Olympics, and then by winning that they skipped the '97 Americas tournament and went straight to FIBA '98. Winning the Olympics gave them a bye to FIBA, and winning FIBA gave them a bye to the Olympics

So basically in order to qualify for the Olympics, you need to win at least silver in two of three tournaments; and until 2014 if you won gold in the last Olympics, you only needed to win FIBA.

You can even see the importance of each tournament by the rosters USA sends over. If they have to play the first American tournament they send a bunch of G-leaguers. For FIBA they send their best young guys. If they lose FIBA they send their best available squad for the second American tournament cuz they ain't taking no chancest
 
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Yes :dahell:

The biggest advantage teams have over Team USA despite having less talent is they have way more chemistry and continuity, Team USA is a group of uber talented players that are trying to learn how to play with each other on the fly whereas those guys have put in years together

That advantage disappears against a team like the Celtics


Are maybe the advantage is the nba rules. Plenty of foreign players have said its easier to score in the nba. So half the guys that look and look like superstars? Probably aint really like that as ive been saying.
 
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