Black Mamba
Superstar
Cole still a fukking p*ssy and anyone agreeing with what he did sits when they pee
Drake was at Dreamville Fest but left 30 minutes before J. Cole went on stage to apologize to Kendrick Lamar.
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That doesn’t really “play it out” right for Cole. No matter how you slice it Kendrick looks like the real life rap boogeyman, Drake looks like a loser and Cole looks like either a coward or a pawn.
I don’t know why he wouldn’t just reach out to Dot BEFORE he put out 7 Minute Drill to check the temperature. He never puts that out, he never has to apologize and he never has to enter the fray if he doesn’t want to. THAT would be playing it right.
Drake and Cole had an established relationship though. It made sense for them to do songs and tour together. Cole been the neutral party, which is why it doesn’t make sense that Cole would be some “pawn” in a Drake master plan. Drake wasn’t even strategic enough to heed Kendrick’s warnings that he knew what Drake’s ultimate play was going be. Kendrick warned him TWICE and Drake still tried the same shyt he tried with Meek (worked) and Push (backfired) so I kind of find it a reach that he could jedi mind trick Cole to crash out on Kendrick.
Cole WANTED that smoke from Friday till sometime Sunday before he hit that stage. The crucial component to all of this is what made him change his mind in 48 hours. Heads up from Dot? Heads up from Q? SOMEBODY got in his ear because apparently his own crew was unhappy with him bending the knee to Kendrick.
He probably did try to reach out but Dot didn’t answer cuz he ain’t wanna talk on no celly
RennisDeynolds
I am untethered and my rage knows no bounds!
I think this the one
Drake likely came up with the idea to do Kendrick like Jay did Mobb Deep at Dreamville, but with him and Cole declaring war on stage.... that wouldve been a WHOLE different momentum and probably would have had Dot on the ropes in the first round
But Cole gets cole feet (dont even ask me how)
And backs out, recants the diss and Drake is furious, forcing him to release that Drop and Give Me 50 a few days later cause his plan to send Jermaine out like Jay did Beanie Sigel backfired
Thats why he subbed him twice in both his disses
Kendrick subbed Cole also and yall ignore it. Cole dumbass the only one who thought it was kumbaya they all want that top spot when it comes down to it
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RennisDeynolds
I am untethered and my rage knows no bounds!
Cole probably looked in the mirror and realized he didn't have what it takes to go the distance
Man sat up there and declared that TPAB was "trash and they gassed it"
Mr Hate Coffee
Veteran
They had a couple of songs together over the years (In Tha Morning, Jodeci Back) but nothing to make me think they’d be all buddy buddy like that. Hell Kendrick had songs with Drake too.
With where Cole’s career was going and where Drake’s was, it made no sense for them to start cliqueing up imo.
I truly believe Drake started sucking up and praising Cole to eliminate him as a threat.
Busby
Real name no gimmicks..
Then it would have been worse for both of themBro I could see the play, in Drakes mind he was gonna go out there, say some condescending shyt about "my brother Cole and me" and sick Young Simba on KDot, that 7 Minute Drill shyt was 2 days old... If Drake goes on stage at Dreamville fest bigging that diss track up, doing adlibs for J Cole, live performance of First Person Shooter and then drops a teaser for Drop and Give Me 50? Its SCARY HOURS FOR KENDRICK
J. Cole fukked that whole play up and thats why Drake been subbing him ever since, Im ngl that wouldve been a brilliant chess move
So basically we need a movie
Cole and Drake have both spoken in interviews about their real life friendship with one another and Cole even spoke about how their collaborations were meant to be conceptual and not competitive. Also it makes sense they’d be friends as they have similar backgrounds. Both were born of white mothers with black fathers who they didn’t grow up with, were discovered by top tier artists and mentored through their respective labels. They literally blew up at the same time and Drake was telling the world they were the nee Jay-Z and Nas. It was a perfect set up for both of them. From the outside looking in Kendrick came to “spoil” the party and nabbed the commercial success both of them had PLUS the acclaim neither of them had quite managed (Good Kid M.A.A.D City was considered an instant classic while both Thank Me Later and Cole World were tepidly received critically)
Kendrick never really spoke about Drake in a positive light after Drake’s reaction to Control whereas both Drake and Cole continued to speak highly of each other in interviews and lyrics. Kendrick continued to work with Cole and others of his generation like Big Sean whereas Poetic Justice remains Kendrick and Drake’s only real collaboration (Buried Alive Interlude was a solo Lamar song on Drake’s album) by 2015 they were outwardly subbing each other at least 1-2 times were project. Cole and Drake have NEVER thrown subs at one another. You’ve NEVER heard of Drake in anyway screwing over Cole or trying to mess with his wife or mistresses the way he’s done other artists, even Future.
I’m not saying Drake is above trying to use Cole as a pawn, from all the bridges he’s burned over the years it speaks to his low character and lack of basic integrity. All i’m saying is since they’ve come in the game relatively at the same time, Cole is really the only artist Drake has treated as an equal. He was FORCED to consider Kendrick an equal by virtue of Kendrick’s talent and success, but it always felt like post 2015 any good thing Drake had to say about him was him attempting to “eliminate the threat”, its just that Dot wasn’t falling for it. I think Drake actually respected Cole and was more comfortable not viewing him as a threat because they’d already established a friendship before both of them became superstars. He might have genuinely thought that both their friendship and Cole’s competitive nature and hunger would have made it simple reasoning that he’d go at Kendrick, but I don’t think he directly was trying to pit him against Kendrick. I don’t see Drake as that strategically sound nor do I see Cole as that stupidly gullible.
straightcash
All Star
All of us with common sense knew that Kendrick would be on top only as long as the beef was the hot topic. Then people go back to their regular programming, which for most people isn't Kendrick.
Yall keep saying this but theres nothing in that verse aimed at kendrick. It's talking about women and money. Whats the diss? That he would buy someone's publishing if it were up for sale?
The only alleged diss was from Cole, and even thats a stretch.
Man if yall don't get the f*ck outta here with this history rewriting.
"All he said was he'd buy someone's publishing"....then we had to deal with 2 weeks of Drake stans trying to convince the world he was a co-owner of UMG and Kendrick, Ross, Future, etc. were all forced to give him a cut.
Like I said in that other thread even Akademiks seen "First Person Shooter" as a Kendrick shot. Let's not rewrite history now.
Fred.
