Drake: [Kendrick] been doing the same bait and switch for 10 years where he drops a verse to hype everyone up and then nothing ever happens

[Chip Skylark]

Wait you serious??

Crazy

Yeah Pharrell gave it to fab first but This shyt was ass lol

But Kendrick came through and add the touch to it and gave us a classic

Mac had the Wesley theory first

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But with the help of George Clinton Kendrick gave us a classic intro

So I get what @Ziggiy is saying sometimes you need some OGs to help guide the direction

 

[spliz]

So jay z made the beat to feeling it?

Came up with the flow and cadence?

It was him on the hook to dead presidents?

He created mafioso rap?

U know what he means. Lol.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

So jay z made the beat to feeling it?

Came up with the flow and cadence?

No, and he got shyt for that and deserves it.

It was him on the hook to dead presidents?

He created mafioso rap?

You can play dumb if you want. But there is a clear difference in getting a beat and writing a song to it, and getting a song and writing a verse to it.

 

[Piff Perkins]

Drake literally complained like a baby on the radio about Control, on some "no one will work with Kendrick anymore because he's so mean" shyt. He followed that by not doing shyt as Kendrick clowned him year after year, including being the first person to allude to him having ghostwriters. Anyone who lets this Canadian sucker turn the tables around and rewrite history has to be trolling. We had threads on all this shyt and the sentiment was NEVER that "Kendrick is afraid of Drake." Never.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Yeah Pharrell gave it to fab first but This shyt was ass lol

But Kendrick came through and add the touch to it and gave us a classic

Mac had the Wesley theory first

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But with the help of George Clinton Kendrick gave us a classic intro

So I get what @Ziggiy is saying sometimes you need some OGs to help guide the direction

It’s all lies…….

 

[Chip Skylark]

you have got to be shytting me... shyt is blasphemous

I’m not talking about writing but the composing of music.

A lot of rappers aren’t great songwriters is what I’m saying

Having George Clinton, Quincy jones for examples makes a difference

 

[spliz]

See Kanye said it best though. You can’t compete with the Adele’s and Taylor’s without bringing in other greats to compete

I get it. I think more should do it if they can afford it.

do wish Kendrick did more interviews and talked about the process more

fukk Ye. nikka don't be doin shyt barely no more.

 

[CoolinInTheCut]

The overrating of dude has been crazy. It’s like people already calling Luka the Goat or top 5 all time. fukk all that, Dude got lots of work to put in to even be mentioned with the greats.

Even on the artistic angle dude is overrated. People give Drake shyt for having writers(which they should) but nobody wanna talk about how Kendrick’s artsy concept stuff comes with dozens of producers and writers to make the music.

Dudes like nas, jay, lupe etc ain’t have all that, it was them 1 producer or two and their pen. Their own creativity drove those classic records.

Kenny got whole ass production teams, artists, musicians, composers, writters, etc but we supposed to be in awe at his creativity

People like to act like everything is organic with Kendrick but they don't like to admit that dude was also the biggest rapper over at Interscope after Eminem, and they're the main ones who created this concept of these mega albums full of super producers, big collabs, and expensive samples, and huge marketing campaigns.

Like we've seen how stacked albums like Get Rich or Die Tryin, The Massacre, The Documentary, and Em's albums were. And we've heard countless times how much Dre and his team was involved in mentorship and actually directing these albums from song selection + sequencing to how to lay down vocals. Kendrick's first album had Just Blaze, Dr. Dre, Pharrell, T-Minus, MJB, Drake, etc. It's easy to sound much deeper or artistic than you really are when you're rapping over a Marvin Gaye sample, and not every artist is going to have access to that.

They also have a strong distribution team and you see it with the heavy playlisting their artists get on DSPs or how their artists continued to be covered by blogs even when they aren't active. XXL admitted in the past that they were pretty much in a deal to exclusively promote Interscope artists in the past. This is why you'll see Eminem and Kendrick regularly in shyt like Rap Caviar when we know the audience for a playlist like that doesn't care about music from those two guys.

 

[Westbama Heartthrob]

No, and he got shyt for that and deserves it.

You can play dumb if you want. But there is a clear difference in getting a beat and writing a song to it, and getting a song and writing a verse to it.

You're double talking

Kendrick has and does write songs to beats

And no one is just giving him completed songs. He's involved in the whole process, so it's a full collab the whole way through. You're misrepresenting it as if he's getting songs on some popstar shyt

Using jay z of all people as example of a creative songwriter than kendrick is downright hilarious too

Biggest biter and wave hopper in the game until drake showed up

 

[Roid Jones]

They both have been throwing subliminals at each other for the past decade.

This nikka always tries to be the victim when things aren't in his favor and then runs to that fat fukk to be his mouth piece.

Exactly, dude acting like a victim is lame

 

[Roid Jones]

See how Drake is using one of the biggest voices in the culture to push his narrative, expect more people in his corner to do the same thing

 

[Roid Jones]

Cap.

Drake ran and cried every chance he got after Control. He should’ve just dissed him if he wanted that smoke.

And that's the main point, if he feels a way about Kendrick why is he waiting, set it off on him smh

 

[NoHalfWay]

Find a quote where I said specifically that To Pimp A Butterfly is the greatest album of the entire genre and i’ll stop posting for the rest of the year. Or find a quote where I said it shouldn’t be compared to other rap albums.

Not YOU. You know who I’m talmbout

Y’all be in the mosh pit with these nikkaz feeding the hype

 

[Roid Jones]

This is true. Thats my issue with Drake. He is a Karen. Calling Rick Ross racist was really crazy to me too

But it doesn’t take away he’s kind of right about this situation

He's not tbh, since control he has spoken about his dislike of that record, he should have bombed on Kendrick then, even now why wait?

 

[Mike the Executioner]

This!

I just found out last week QUINCY JONES helped with dying of thirst

And yes I checked the samples. He was in fact a songwriter for the song.

Ain’t that something. Quincy Jones? Nah… That’s wild

Obviously Quincy didn’t write his raps but the kind of thought that went into GKMC I had that all on Kenny. Maybe his TDE brehs since they’re his crew/peers. Quincy though?

Not in anyway equating this to ghost writing but its not nothing

The greats didn’t make music like that.

Don’t care how much “a part of it is” when you have quincy jones and dozens of other composers and writers working on the music, you don’t deserve full credit for the creativeness on display.

This is the new Kanye style of song making. Hire all the talented people you can find, get them in a room and come up with some shyt.

Jay-z ain’t have none of that. His songs were based on his own creativity alone.

Even some of Kendrick contemporaries like J.Cole don’t work like that. You can argue whose music is better but Cole made it to his spot producing most of his music himself, and even if he used another producer it was just to buy a beat. Not this whole dream team of producers and writers shyt

Quincy is credited as a songwriter because Kendrick sampled a song that Quincy co-wrote ("Maybe Tomorrow" by Grant Green). He had no creative involvement with "Sing About Me" beyond that. Kendrick and Quincy didn't even meet until 2015.

Are we going to start using sampling as a strike against rappers, especially when we know how much those rappers contribute to their music?