Drake: [Kendrick] been doing the same bait and switch for 10 years where he drops a verse to hype everyone up and then nothing ever happens

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They both have been throwing subliminals at each other for the past decade.

This nikka always tries to be the victim when things aren't in his favor and then runs to that fat fukk to be his mouth piece.

This is true. Thats my issue with Drake. He is a Karen. Calling Rick Ross racist was really crazy to me too

But it doesn’t take away he’s kind of right about this situation
 

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Nobody in their right mind is arguing that Kendrick Lamar has a better discography than the man who made ILLMATIC and It Was Written back to back and then when his back was against the wall came out swinging with Stillmatic and Gods Son and then at the age of 47 put out SIX top tier albums in a 3 years span. Get the ENTIRE fukk outta here with that “arguable” shyt. Thats blasphemy
Nawl nawl Ziggiy, y’all be in here co-signing the Indian call center bots talmbout To Pimp A Butterly is the greatest album of the entire genre and shouldn’t be compared to rap albums. Its comp is Thriller, Songs In the Key of Life, Purple Rain :wow:

gkmc is a classic (agreed) and DAMN is a classic cuz it won grammies, a Pulitzer Prize & had hits. Mr. Morale is the spiritual successor to TPAB so it’s a classic by association :banderas:

Kendrick >>>>> Nas :umad:
 

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The thing is Kendrick is cool but cac music hipsters gas him up cause he makes critic bait music and thats how he ends up becoming this wildly overrated bogeyman in hip hop when he isn't battle tested nor does he actually participate in hip hop outside of a rollout for his own projects (either him or Baby Keem). He probably only has like 20-25 collabs in his entire career.

Dude is like a black Eminem at this point. Constantly celebrated, but rarely present in the culture.
The overrating of dude has been crazy. It’s like people already calling Luka the Goat or top 5 all time. fukk all that, Dude got lots of work to put in to even be mentioned with the greats.

Even on the artistic angle dude is overrated. People give Drake shyt for having writers(which they should) but nobody wanna talk about how Kendrick’s artsy concept stuff comes with dozens of producers and writers to make the music.

Dudes like nas, jay, lupe etc ain’t have all that, it was them 1 producer or two and their pen. Their own creativity drove those classic records.

Kenny got whole ass production teams, artists, musicians, composers, writters, etc but we supposed to be in awe at his creativity :stopitslime:
 
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Nawl nawl Ziggiy, y’all be in here co-signing the Indian call center bots talmbout To Pimp A Butterly is the greatest album of the entire genre and shouldn’t be compared to rap albums. Its comp is Thriller, Songs In the Key of Life, Purple Rain :wow:

gkmc is a classic (agreed) and DAMN is a classic cuz it won grammies, a Pulitzer Prize & had hits. Mr. Morale is the spiritual successor to TPAB so it’s a classic by association :banderas:

Kendrick >>>>> Nas :umad:


Find a quote where I said specifically that To Pimp A Butterfly is the greatest album of the entire genre and i’ll stop posting for the rest of the year. Or find a quote where I said it shouldn’t be compared to other rap albums.
 
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Kenny keeps doing the bait and switch and Drake keeps falling for it. :russ:

And not just falling for it, falling it for so badly he's now getting threatened with with legal action by 2pac's estate. :dahell:

Drake is clearly not familiar with the saying "Fool me once, shame on you...fool me twice, shame on me".
 

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The overrating of dude has been crazy. It’s like people already calling Luka the Goat or top 5 all time. fukk all that, Dude got lots of work to put in to even be mentioned with the greats.

Even on the artistic angle dude is overrated. People give Drake shyt for having writers(which they should) but nobody wanna talk about how Kendrick’s artsy concept stuff comes with dozens of producers and writers to make the music.

Dudes like nas, jay, lupe etc ain’t have all that, it was them 1 producer or two and their pen. Their own creativity drove those classic records.

Kenny got whole ass production teams, artists, musicians, composers, writters, etc but we supposed to be in awe at his creativity :stopitslime:

This!
 
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The overrating of dude has been crazy. It’s like people already calling Luka the Goat or top 5 all time. fukk all that, Dude got lots of work to put in to even be mentioned with the greats.

Even on the artistic angle dude is overrated. People give Drake shyt for having writers(which they should) but nobody wanna talk about how Kendrick’s artsy concept stuff comes with dozens of producers and writers to make the music.

Dudes like nas, jay, lupe etc ain’t have all that, it was them 1 producer or two and their pen. Their own creativity drove those classic records.

Kenny got whole ass production teams, artists, musicians, composers, writters, etc but we supposed to be in awe at his creativity :stopitslime:

Nobody’s writing Kendrick’s verses and its been confirmed over and over by collaborators exactly what they do and how they contribute.

If your going to make an album with HEAVY jazz themes, incorporating live instrumentation across the entire project then of course you’d have CREDITED composers and producers. Michael Jackson’s albums produced by Quincy Jones have lots of credited composers, and instrumentalists. But the songs Michael wrote, michael wrote HIMSELF and that was never in contention. Michael and Quincy almost had a major falling out over Quincy not giving Michael co-producer credit for Billie Jean, a song Michael wrote and composed the rough draft for before Quincy mixed it.


When a Drake project drops, at least 3-4 reference tracks (FULL SONGS mind you) generally accompany it. Whenever a Kendrick project drops, at least 3-4 roughs of HIM writing his own lyrics and working through roughs of production accompany it. And not only that, we’ve got reference tracks of Kendrick writing for his own camp (looking at you Keem and Jay Rock)
 

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Drake has ALWAYS responded to Kendrick shots though

Kendrick has never said Drake name and the excuse has been “we know who he is talking about”


But Drake has been the first to actually say Kendrick’s name which means let’s fight

So what exactly do yall want Drake to do? He didn’t want to beef with Kendrick k dot is the one who started and wanted this
It's a whole lotta double talking itt

Drake didn't want to beef with kendrick yet he's been sneak dissing for ten years and was the one to start it after control dropped

Drake is naming names and wants to go at it now, but he begged to have the espn interview pulled back in the day

How we giving props to that man when he waited this long to come at kendrick. Especially when he would've kept subbing if kendrick didn't come at him directly on like that in response to the subs on FPS :mjlol:
 

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Giving him to May is fine. If he don't drop it then Yeah, it's just hype. Kendrick has a chance to change his perception. But to me he's an aloof rapper who don't wanna constantly dropping tracks like Drake willing to do. It's "art" to him so he aint gonna rush it. But at the same time he might have that Dr. Dre perfectionism disease
 

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Nobody’s writing Kendrick’s verses and its been confirmed over and over by collaborators exactly what they do and how they contribute.
Never said anyone was writing his verses.
If your going to make an album with HEAVY jazz themes, incorporating live instrumentation across the entire project then of course you’d have CREDITED composers and producers. Michael Jackson’s albums produced by Quincy Jones have lots of credited composers, and instrumentalists. But the songs Michael wrote, michael wrote HIMSELF and that was never in contention. Michael and Quincy almost had a major falling out over Quincy not giving Michael co-producer credit for Billie Jean, a song Michael wrote and composed the rough draft for before Quincy mixed it.
Sure, but in the context of these stan conversations Kendrick always get so much credit for his artsy creativeness and concepts, but a lot of that comes for his team of producers.

If Drake deserves points deducted for having writers(which he does), then Kendrick deserves artsy points deducted for having dudes like quincy jones working on his music with him.

Sure Michael got credit for what he wrote, but i don’t think anyone would argue that quincy dosen’t deserve LOTS of credit for michael’s sound at the time.
When a Drake project drops, at least 3-4 reference tracks (FULL SONGS mind you) generally accompany it. Whenever a Kendrick project drops, at least 3-4 roughs of HIM writing his own lyrics and working through roughs of production accompany it. And not only that, we’ve got reference tracks of Kendrick writing for his own camp (looking at you Keem and Jay Rock)
We know drake has ghostwriters. Again my post had nothing to do with Kendrick’s verses.

As a retired rapper myself(:mjlol: ) I know how much easier it was for me to write a verse to a beat/hook/concept that was given to me.

Coming up with the Beat/Hook/Concept is almost more important than the raps. If you have any rap talent you can write a quick 16 to/about pretty much anything. But coming up with songs people actually want to listen to over and over again is a whole different thing
 

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The overrating of dude has been crazy. It’s like people already calling Luka the Goat or top 5 all time. fukk all that, Dude got lots of work to put in to even be mentioned with the greats.

Even on the artistic angle dude is overrated. People give Drake shyt for having writers(which they should) but nobody wanna talk about how Kendrick’s artsy concept stuff comes with dozens of producers and writers to make the music.

Dudes like nas, jay, lupe etc ain’t have all that, it was them 1 producer or two and their pen. Their own creativity drove those classic records.

Kenny got whole ass production teams, artists, musicians, composers, writters, etc but we supposed to be in awe at his creativity :stopitslime:
Do you know how an album is made?

Especially rap. What rapper doesn't have a production team? Key word "rapper". Not producer rapper

Breh had the creative vision for his projects and collabed with people who could give him that sound. Kendrick is heavily involved in every part of the production process. It's not like he just drops a verse and verse and dips
 
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