Essential Dragonball Super? New series set after Majin Buu saga

[Sir Charles Barkley]

Master Roshi is a technique person. Plus he's not a slouch either. He stays training, like Goku. So he uses technique where power won't work. Plus, the manga made it a point to point out that the Pride Troopers Roshi was facing were pretty weak. Also remember that, raising your power level instantly and bringing it back down again is an established technique in DBZ.

I just assumed as goku got stronger so did the rest of the team. Remember unlike the OG saiyans and freeza’s men... the DB gang possessed the unique ability to sense and measure another person’s ki. So when someone breaks a new barrier the rest of the team feels it and can use it as a measuring stick moving forward.

 

[Secure Da Bag]

So Gohan said he was at his limit but the manga never showed him in Mystic form. So did he lose in base or in Mystic?

 

[904]

1. How the hell is Kefla stuggling against Gohan when she gave SSB Goku that work in the anime.

I would argue that she should have never been anywhere near the level of SSG or SSB in the first place.. They were just base super Saiyans that fused.. Vegeta and Goku both should be far beyond them. The anime screwed that up.

2. Why in the world is Vegeta getting beat up by Toppo that's not even in his God of Destruction state.

Like the guy above me said, Goku lost to Toppo earlier..

3. How is Master Roshi stronger than a pride trooper.

I'm inclined to agree with you here but some of those Troopers were actually weak. And Roshi wasn't necessarily stronger either..

 

[LordDeathwatch]

Gohan was full Mystic & stalemated a Kefla that never went beyond base form it seems. Much more logical conclusion than having Great Value Broly push Goku to his limits.

I'm enjoying the rapid pace of the manga, as usual it adds an actual weight to a Tournament, in this case, the time limit. Animes always fill in the blanks, so if you wanted more from Bum Universe #__ then you have the Anime to fall back on.

My nikka Roshi da Gawd shining bright as the Human MVP.

Had Jiren like :GucciPause2:

Then reminded Goku of all the people that have invested their time and methodology into him, with the exclamation point being his Elimination. Beautiful tie back to Goku's origins.

Roshi Speech cracking the Wall > Committing that with your own Spirit Bomb to gain UI

Yes bytch made nikkas, the manga is still superior to the Anime.:MauryORly:

 

[Skip b]

I fell asleep half wasted, straight giggling at the anger in the tone of them youtube discussing the Manga

 

[FunkDoc1112]

"I am the hope of the universe" speech the most iconic thing to ever happen to the DB series in any dub dont @ me

Yeah and it's some cheesy ass SuperMan bullshyt that the real Goku would never say.

 

[Jplaya2023]

base gohan stalemated kefla

i'm done with the manga lol

 

[Skip b]

base gohan stalemated kefla

i'm done with the manga lol

Not really mad at the Manga; its a fukking cartoon, any dragonball >>>>nothing


Them youtube videos had me dying



Once the Manga give Vegeta ultra Instinct instead of ssbe and Goku fanboys flip

 

[loyola llothta]

base gohan stalemated kefla

i'm done with the manga lol

Why all the hate? It make sense

 

[Jplaya2023]

Why all the hate? It make sense

how sway?

 

[Secure Da Bag]

how sway?

1. How the hell is Kefla stuggling against Gohan when she gave SSB Goku that work in the anime.

2. Why in the world is Vegeta getting beat up by Toppo that's not even in his God of Destruction state.

3. How is Master Roshi stronger than a pride trooper.

1. Best question. Only answer is that Piccolo beat the hell out of Gohan multiple times and gave him senzu beans. Therefore, there's a chance that Gohan went through multiple zenkais during his training. Also, Piccolo and Gohan may have went to Kami's lookout to train.
2. In the manga, Goku went SSB and Toppo won. So it shouldn't be a surprise that Vegeta is struggling.
3. Master Roshi is a technique person. Plus he's not a slouch either. He stays training, like Goku. So he uses technique where power won't work. Plus, the manga made it a point to point out that the Pride Troopers Roshi was facing were pretty weak. Also remember that, raising your power level instantly and bringing it back down again is an established technique in DBZ.

 

[LordDeathwatch]

Brehs, it's not that you haven't explained yourself, it's just the fact these nikkas ain't trying to hear it.

They hearing you but they not listening. In any series, the Manga trumps the Anime but these nikkas want it to be the other way.

 

[42 Monks]

if you've been consistent with the manga - it makes sense

if you've been watching the anime and taking occasional glances, of course you'll be lost as fukk

it was the same kind of stuff going on all the way back to the zamasu arc

 

[The War Report]

Brehs, it's not that you haven't explained yourself, it's just the fact these nikkas ain't trying to hear it.

They hearing you but they not listening. In any series, the Manga trumps the Anime but these nikkas want it to be the other way.

It is the other way. The anime took priority over the manga.

 

[kn83]

Why all the hate? It make sense

No it doesn't lmao. Kale by herself in the manga is stronger than Ultimate Gohan. Potara fusion is an A x B multiplier. And yet base Gohan is matching Kefla? Wtf? Base Kefla logically could one shot Ultimate Gohan.