Essential Dragonball Super? New series set after Majin Buu saga

[Kid Bu]

Beerus is awesome. This is a fact, end of story

 

[Jplaya2023]

People forgetting gogeta was hitting omega with them invinsible punches as well. Thats a TOEI thing



Gogeta hitting janemba with them thangs

 

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People forgetting gogeta was hitting omega with them invinsible punches as well. Thats a TOEI thing

Original SSG

 

[Airtrack360]

How is he in the bad guy trope? The rules of the tournament bound him to defeating Goku and Co to live.
At worst they exposed him to be a flawed loner in need of new way of thinking. He's no Frieza or Cell.

I don't think you understood what I meant. But your also wrong. Jiren is there for his wish not his universes survival. I'm not sure if they touched on it in the anime but in the manga Jiren was going to opt out of the tournament even when he knew what the stakes were until he heard about the Dragonball wish.

But back to the bad guy thing. In the beginning Jiren did seem like he was not in the tournament for selfish reason and that being the leader of the Pride Troopers he would have some sort of compassion for is companions, but the turned out not to be the case and hes just some power hungry loner.

Frieza was very similar. Only difference is Jiren doesnt kill people for pleasure.

Edit: Basically he started out as an Antagonist/Adversery but they gave him more villainous attributes toward the end which I don't think they blended well into his character. Maybe if his backstory was better fleshed out it would work but it didnt work for me. Hence he became a pretty straight forward bad guy.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Said that shyt IN FRONT of the Gods too...

Hi key shyt on them bluntly as fukk. The pride this nikka has in being a Saiyan is fukking amazing. How can not like this man.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Not meaning to rain on anyone parade Super just seems to lack that flair that DBZ had. Don’t get me wrong I will always watch any DB content because I grew up on this shyt but that doesn’t stop me from recognising flaws and bad writing. And you are right they can’t end things on Super as they need to reach the ending of Z to connect things and conclude the series.

Yes we all agree that Super is not as good as Z. We all agree that Super could have been way better. That does not mean it's trash though.

 

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Shorty is bad, the reaction community has some jawns

 

[Trapperman Dave]

Episode was good to me, in retrospect super as a whole is decent the first arc was ok, second was trash every since then it’s been flames. It’s just not as gritty as Z and some of y’all refuse to see that.

And i do think they over did it with transformations especially god ones

 

[Malik1time]

Shorty is bad, the reaction community has some jawns

Creampie her on sight

 

[Json]

I don't think you understood what I meant. But your also wrong. Jiren is there for his wish not his universes survival. I'm not sure if they touched on it in the anime but in the manga Jiren was going to opt out of the tournament even when he knew what the stakes were until he heard about the Dragonball wish.

But back to the bad guy thing. In the beginning Jiren did seem like he was not in the tournament for selfish reason and that being the leader of the Pride Troopers he would have some sort of compassion for is companions, but the turned out not to be the case and hes just some power hungry loner.

Frieza was very similar. Only difference is Jiren doesnt kill people for pleasure.

Based only on the anime for me.

Then everyone is a bad guy. Cause everyone from Universe 7 jumped in for the wish cause Goku didn't tell them the universe was in danger at first. That's may be selfish but I don't know if it pushes someone to bad guy level. Heck Vegeta was talking about his wish up until the moment he fell out the ring.

I agree to an extent. But since we don't know what exactly Jiren's wish is. They've left him a redemption angle. Jiren turned power hungry after losing 2 versions of his family to a powerful monster.He turned his back on believing in others cause of a trauma. It's a built in "escape hatch" for a character redemption in Goku. A man who has turned a guy like Piccolo who has tried to kill him and became the defacto godfather to his son.

Edit: Basically he started out as an Antagonist/Adversery but they gave him more villainous attributes toward the end which I don't think they blended well into his character. Maybe if his backstory was better fleshed out it would work but it didnt work for me. Hence he became a pretty straight forward bad guy.

Yeah, it was rushed. The half-assed backstory left too much room for a redemption. They made sure to let him traumatic in a Batman way. And Batman too became a loner who didn't trust his own crew but he never was seen as the bad guy.

Frieza and Vegeta's villainous acts were defined by their personalities which have stayed consistent as their motivations have changed. Jiren doesn't have a personality. He's just plot.

 

[peppe]

lol at people still complaining about the pacing being bad. Us oldheads all remember the



So many time I had the

so you youngin's should just stfu and take it.

Wanna talk about slow pacing, after 21 YEARS we finally know if casca get's her mind back in berserk. 21 YEARS

 

[Json]

Shorty is bad, the reaction community has some jawns

Gotta admit I watched this last night when it popped up on my recommendations for non-DBS reasons.

Weird part is Dragonball has been around so long, you can imagine them all being 8-12 watching it as kids.

 

[The Mad Titan]

This UI stuff is only good because of the pacing it’s more like the old stuff. Typically in super the fight would be tied up in two episodes that’s not really enough to flush out or build up hype and an anticipation for characters.

 

[☃ ೋ]

nikka Goku created and destroyed his galaxy in less than 10 seconds

 

[Stop_It_5]

Beerus is awesome. This is a fact, end of story

you're not official until you son krillin