Essential Dragonball Super? New series set after Majin Buu saga

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not necessarily. that's like saying someone born super rich would know how to acquire wealth if you left him to his own devices and stripped him of his family fortune.

freeza doesn't know anything about hard work and suffering. he was born with a silver spoon in his mouth. he was just stronger than everyone else and was able to take anything he wanted. and unfortunately for us he wanted to rule the universe.

1.That was a terrible analogy. This is Dragon ball, not real life man.

2. Frieza was born at super Saiyan levels... Why is it so hard to believe/understand that someone born so strong would get more from training? Plus Frieza is genius, you don't think he knows how to train?
Let me put it differently for coli nikkas.. Who would get more from training, Broly or Goku? :pachaha:
 
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1.That was a terrible analogy. This is Dragon ball, not real life man.

2. Frieza was born at super Saiyan levels... Why is it so hard to believe/understand that someone born so strong would get more from training? Plus Frieza is genius, you don't think he knows how to train?
Let me put it differently for coli nikkas.. Who would get more from training, Broly or Goku? :pachaha:

vegeta was born stronger than goku but goku is still stronger.

you do the math.
 

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we still not done with the BOG arc?:mjcry: Ive been boycotting until the goku vs beerus fight is over:noah:
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DBZ the GOAT. Super is too playful.
i mean tbh they're hasnt really been a threat yet....beerus can destroy the planet if he wants too but he's pretty much just a chill nicca that like eating good food and scrapping strong dudes.....the ROF arc should be more serious and better since the movie was waaaaaaay better than BOG in my opinion
 

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1.That was a terrible analogy. This is Dragon ball, not real life man.

2. Frieza was born at super Saiyan levels... Why is it so hard to believe/understand that someone born so strong would get more from training? Plus Frieza is genius, you don't think he knows how to train?
Let me put it differently for coli nikkas.. Who would get more from training, Broly or Goku? :pachaha:
Pretty much

vegeta was born stronger than goku but goku is still stronger.

you do the math.


Broly was leaps and bounds stronger than Goku same with Frieza. Using Vegeta is kind of a bad comparison because Broly could have beating both them nikkas when they first fought as infant :mjlol:. Broly was increasing ki just because....
 

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Broly was leaps and bounds stronger than Goku same with Frieza. Using Vegeta is kind of a bad comparison because Broly could have beating both them nikkas when they first fought as infant :mjlol:. Broly was increasing ki just because....

He doesnt get that Frieza's race are naturally stronger than saiyans. Frieza's race is superior, Frieza never needed to train.
 

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still wish goku had to achieve God level by doing something on his own. you know by digging deep and relying on the strength within...like with super saiyan. he had to work for it and earn it.

But it feels like the God power up was just a hand out.
It's 100000x more difficult to find 5 other saiyans than Goku training to achieve a transformation

like if this was a situation where Goku didn't already know 5, he would've been fukked.

Hell if Whis didn't say anything they would've still been fukked
 

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He doesnt get that Frieza's race are naturally stronger than saiyans. Frieza's race is superior, Frieza never needed to train.

the way you worded that given friezas past use of calling saiyans monkeys is hilarious, sounds like some shyt he would say, dude is the david duke of cartoons
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still wish goku had to achieve God level by doing something on his own. you know by digging deep and relying on the strength within...like with super saiyan. he had to work for it and earn it.

But it feels like the God power up was just a hand out.

From what I am gathering about God mode is that it doesn't necessarily make you stronger or faster but instead it gives you God Ki which is on a totally different wavelength than regular ki.

Someone without "God Ki" basically can't harm someone with it, no matter how strong their regular ki is because they don't compare. ((It kind of feeds into my theory that Vegeta's royal blood actually has diluted God Ki in it possibly from an ancestor that was a SSJ God or was the original SSJGod to explain the reason why he was even able to lay hands on Beerus.))

Basically Goku ascended to the next level. Toriyama talked about how he wanted to even the power level nonsense out because it was getting out of hand and this is a perfect way to do it.

Think of it this way. Goku used to be a Senior in High School but now hes a Freshman in College. All the shyt he knew in HS will help him progress in College but it doesn't matter how smart he was in HS because non of those grades are gonna carry over to College.

With one swift swoop Goku now becomes the small fish in a big pond. If this is the route toriyama is going its damn near genius.

Goku has graduated from saving planets to saving dimensions.

It's kind of ironic how making Goku into an actual "God" is the one thing that made him weaker in DragonBall in a sense.
 
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