Dragon Ball Z movie 2015 FRIEEZA BACK!(edit Oct 9 2015: english dub out)

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Eh, I still think Frieza's new transformation is lame. :dry:

And I think there's too much power inflation to continue the series. Not to mention the characters were kinda old by the end of the series (Goku being a grandpa and all). If anything I'd like to see a Dragonball reboot that starts all the way from the Saiyan Saga (or maybe earlier) and fixes some of the flaws the series had. Like giving humans/Piccolo more time to shine, not making Saiyans quite so overpowered, making Raditz a more important character (he is Goku's brother), having Gohan do more, not being able to wish people back so easily, etc.

:camby:You pretty much dismiss the whole point of the series breh. I understand a continuation set somehwere in the future or something, or a different universe, but a reboot of a classic:mindblown:
 

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Eh, I still think Frieza's new transformation is lame. :dry:

And I think there's too much power inflation to continue the series. Not to mention the characters were kinda old by the end of the series (Goku being a grandpa and all). If anything I'd like to see a Dragonball reboot that starts all the way from the Saiyan Saga (or maybe earlier) and fixes some of the flaws the series had. Like giving humans/Piccolo more time to shine, not making Saiyans quite so overpowered, making Raditz a more important character (he is Goku's brother), having Gohan do more, not being able to wish people back so easily, etc.

I also once wanted a reboot to fix some of the flaws of the progression of the story and some of the characters. I can easily argue both ways but I can perfectly see why they wouldn't. Now to speak on your power inflation concern, I too believe the power was getting a little out of hand. But we do know for a fact Toriyama is trying to fix this. With these new movies Toriyama is trying to redefine what "power" really is, or at least what it is moving forward.

In Battle of Gods, Goku couldn't even touch Beerus until he attained SSJG. Vegeta was able to but I believe its only because there is something that connects Vegeta to the original SSJG that we may get more information on in future movies. Basically what I'm saying is that from now on, power is going to be measured on a different scale than before. I don't believe its a coincidence that Toriyama has just introduced us to 2 different realms/factions and i'm surprised nobody has really seemed to notice it yet.

We've gotten a hint/peek at the God Realm and the Demon Realm. If you've played Xenoverse you'd know that they have introduced a character named Demigra who they refer to him as a Demon God. Which kind of opens of the pandora's box of possibilities that can spawn from that.

But can you kinda see where the series might be going now? Mere mortals Goku and Vegeta, fighting amongst Gods and Demons!

Now I know it seems crazy and not very DBZish but it does seem like a logical step in progressing the story and fleshing out the world with the information they have given us so far.

I'll give an example of another anime so it may seem a little more clearer.

BLEACH.

Goku/Vegeta = Ichigo
Soul Society/Hueco Mundo = God Realm/Demon Realm

Ichigo couldn't even stand next to a Soul Reaper until he was able to become one. Same as SSJ3 Goku vs Beerus until he gained SSJG.

Ichigo's enemies and allies were baffled by the fact that a human could be that powerful and not even be a full Soul Reaper. Goku and Vegeta are special, they are no ordinary Saiyans and we know that from what we have seen from the series. If there is a challenge these guys can rise to take it. That's why I think these two will do things that enemies/allies from both the God and Demon Realms would think impossible, especially for mortals.

Goku got a taste of SSJG.... now I don't think Goku is either "The God" or "A God" he just got a feel for the power because remember it doesn't last forever. But I believe the story is going to focus on Goku and Vegeta as comrades reaching new levels of the power of the Gods in order to defeat a threat we haven't seen yet.

This would also fix the power inflation and remove the need to go SSJ.

I honestly think these movies and even Xenoverse is Toriyama "rebooting" this series and giving it a brand new arc and something we haven't really seen before in DBZ.
 
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They just couldn't let him get the official W, huh...:dry:. Oh well, he got some shine for a change.
 

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read at your risk. I seen one by mistake and just going to read them all now. Fukk it

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=27729&start=19860



- The blue haired thing is likely a Super Saiyan God that's fully absorbed the power? I guess that would explain why both Goku and Vegeta have it, though that means even when Goku brought it back briefly at the end of BoG, he still didn't have it quite under control yet. I'll also be disappointed if it truly triggers his Super Saiyan hair instead of his base hair.

- Vegeta likely gets to 'almost' win, but in the end it's tossed off to Goku after all eh? I'm a little disappointed, but at the same time, that sounds like something that could have come about as a middle-ground between the concepts of Vegeta winning and Goku 'not winning'. Kind of a cop-out if so, but eh.

- Really hope that Freeza blowing up the Earth, if it's all undone, doesn't end up being the only thing to Nakao's comment. I hope there's further ramifications than that.


I don't think so, Freeza was already bruised by his earlier fight with Goku, and Sorbet was involved in the fight making Freeza gain the upper hand. They are probably equals in this movie, as far as I can tell.


Yeah, sure does. What bothers me though is that the other characters may be shafted again. Most of the humans won't destroy some villains and end up getting beat up and Gohan just using his SS form, only to get knocked out in the end,


That's what I find interesting. Then again, Goku was senzu'd at the end, so we don't really know if he got stronger himself after that.


Freeza doesnt have a senzu bean, so a tired Freeza fought a fresh Vegeta right off the bat so who knows + he couldnt survive or cancel the attack from Freeza.


Before he goes Golden, Freeza gets his ass kicked

He goes Gold and starts winning.

It becomes clear that Golden Freeza has the same weakness as before(he has an issue with stamina fighting at max power)

Goku tries to take advantage of this but gets beaten by Golden Freeza (though part of it was being caught off guard by Sorbet)

Vegeta steps in and gives Goku a senzu and then fights Freeza instead.

Vegeta is winning but then Freeza blows up Earth thus killing Vegeta(Goku survives because he's over hanging out with Whis while watching Vegeta fight and he made a barrier)

Whis uses his power to go back 3 minutes in time so Goku can finish Freeza off with a Kamehameha before he gets to blow up Earth.


死にかけの間際でベジータ参戦
ラス1の仙豆で悟空回復
青化して圧倒フリーザゴールデン解ける
そのまま消そうとするもフリーザ地球破壊
悟空、自分の油断が招いた結果と後悔
ウイスの提案で3分前(これが限度)の地球に戻り、破壊寸前に
悟空が全力カメハメ波でフリーザを消滅
フリーザは地獄に戻る

Goku defeats Freeza. :mjcry:


So the red-horned soldier that seemed to be giving Piccolo a hard time apparently didn't last much longer than the other soldiers, there's one controversy put to rest
 
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I'll never understand fans crying about Goku shining the most when the story has always revolved around him since Dragon Ball, he's the main character what do u expect:mjlol:, and he didnt even win in the last movie, and if we being honest this is only the 2nd time he killed the main villain:sas2:
Vegeta shines more here than he ever did in the series, Frieza had to blow up the planet in order to stop him.. find me any other instance where Vegeta hands down fukked a main villain up and was clearly stronger

Who else could possibly shine besides Goku and Vegeta? Gohan has turned into so much of a fukkboy theres no coming back for him and its over for all the non saiyan characters. Goten and Trunks are the only hopes left and with Toriyama leaving them out of movies its not looking good unless they come back glo'd up in the next one
 
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