Dragon Ball Z movie 2015 FRIEEZA BACK!(edit Oct 9 2015: english dub out)

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Akira Toriyama meant to end it after the frieza saga. This movie is just him saying frieza was always one of the baddest even after everything else that has happened.

I've said it in every DBZ thread and I'll say it here too. Toriyama is the George Lucas of DBZ.

All of DBZ up until the end of the frieza saga made sense. Everything was cohesive everything was building to that last battle.

The death of frieza was the basically the closing of the whole story. Goku protected the dragonballs, avenged the sayians avenged the namekians avenged Vegeta's father and Bardock, defeated the most powerful being in the universe and achieved the legendary super saiyen form.

No other saga accomplished as much. For the Andriods it was all just a game, for Cell it was all just a game, for Buu it was...all just a game, and NONE of it was personal. Either for the Z fighters or the villians.

Goku had a personal reason to want to destroy frieza and so did frieza for him.

You had Vegeta crying on his death bed begging Goku to defeat frieza and acknowledging that HE was the true super saiyan. The was HUUUGE for a character like vegeta back then and we've never quite seen him humble himself like that sense then.

From Piccolo to Raditz to Vegeta and Nappa to Ginyu Force to Dodoria and Zarbon and finally Frieza. All a steady climb to the top.

I don't agree with revisiting Frieza basically because his story has already been told. And now Toriyama is backpedaling and saying that "no wait Frieza is the baddest see he has another form you didn't know about." Toriyama had the potential to reignite a frieza storyline and he basically shyt on it by having trunks kill him AND his father in 1 episode... It basically made Frieza the laughing stock of the whole series when it comes to villians even in hell they were craking jokes at him.

They should of went down the road of Frieza's family or ladder of power. Cooler would of been an amazing villain for the regular series and would be fueled by his brothers death but also angry that Frieza never told him about the dragonballs and wanted them all to himself. King Cold had the potential to be close to god tier or even appointed by someone of Lord Beerus type status and could of been a great villain to be defeated right before Beerus shows up.

NOBODY EVEN GAVE A fukk ABOUT THE DRAGONBALLS ANYMORE!
 

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I actually like the other SSJ forms. SSJ 3 was dope. SSJ 2 was good when only Gohan could do it as a way to show his full potential realized. SSJ 3 is cool because it shows without the restraint of life, Goku's power was limitless. Hopefully we might see SSJ back.
 

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Honestly this should have been friezas new form
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but still cant wait for the return of lord frieza :wow:
:ooh:That next level Frieza design is ill :ohlawd:
 

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I actually really like that explanation. Too bad they didn't touch on this at the end of DBZ. Going back to the base and OG SSJ forms seem like a good look.

If you look at the Goku vs Uub fight in the last episode of the series, it made sense why Goku never went SSJ, even when Uub was displaying power that matched Kid Buu.
 

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To be honest, the Android saga when you look at it, is the conclusion to another one of Son Goku's greatest enemies, the Red Ribbon Army, who were the first big bad guys that Goku faced. People forget that Cell was programmed, ultimately to get revenge on Goku for destroying the Red Ribbon Army. So that saga makes sense. And to be honest, the history of Trunks was A GREAT STORY that kinda got lost once Cell was introduced.

Now Majin Buu... too drawn out for me. That one I give you, after awhile it was like really? Fusion? SSJ 3? SUPER VEGITO? And this bum is still around?

As for Goku not using SSJ2 and up, I know SSJ 3 was useless because he couldn't fully utilize it as he would when he was dead. SSJ 2 didn't have any drawbacks but I think its more closely associated with Gohan rising. I believe the series should have ended after Cell with Gohan also for filling his destiny, finally tapping into that huge pool of potential and rising up to save the earth and replacing Goku as it was hinted since his first appearance. Anyways, I hope SSJ is used again because it was a major plot point for the whole series. And Goku vs Ubb was about him testing Ubb's raw skill and seeing if he was truly a reincarnated Majin Buu.
 
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