Dr. Tommy Curry - Failure of Black Studies and Intersectionality

[xoxodede]

If you don't see it as an attack on liberal intersectionality, when he literally writes that that is what the book is devoted to and then describes the birth of intersectionality as a discipline and how those who champion it literally ignore some of the origins of the terms they use and how they echo a great deal of the established white supreemacist anti-black male rhetoric historically used with no regard for data that attacks their argument, I don't know what to say to you, except read the book again and take notes , because the things I said are stated multiple times in the book.

Off the bat again I see you has a ideological idol you want to protect though and its influencing your ability to actually absorb what the book states.

Its quite strange.

It is quite strange. It's also logical - that we both can read the same thing and get different understandings and views. Happens all the time - that's life.

Ideological idol? No.

And if that was true -- it would be my daddy and grandfathers -- and the positive BM relationships I have and have always had in my life. That's not idolatry, -- that's my experience and surroundings. Therefore, that's what I know.

No - he literally writes about Intersectional Feminism -- meaning Black women intersectionality feminism, He goes hard on Black Feminist and how their views about BM -- are created through WS -- and help to shape the negative perception of Black men in the eyes of Whites/WS -- and others.

Which I don't have a problem with -- but why not focus on the real issue -- White Supremacy? That's all I'm saying.

As Curry sees it, intersectional accounts overwhelmingly portray Black women as victims and Black men as perpetrators of violence. Curry’s analysis “dares to theorize Black males as victims and, in some cases, as more disadvantaged than their female counterparts” (p. 232).

He is also critical of Afro-Pessimists such as Sadiya Hartman for focusing on Black women as paradigmatic victims of sexual violence. How can he is challenge this?

I 100% agree that Black males and boys have been/are victims and their stories are under represented -- and sometimes silenced + unknown. - Plus, how he states Black men and boys now -- and in the past have been victims of sexual violence, and that white women have been perpetrators of that violence. I also know that BW - have been the perpetrators as well.

But, to state Black males/men are in some cases more disadvantaged as their female counterparts -- I would like to see examples and get more details about this.

I also don't get why it has to be brought up as a competition of sorts.

You can recognize the violence and rape of BM/boys -- while also recognizing and not comparing it to that of BW and girls.

All and all, I want to finish reading and making sure I really -- as you say - "absorb" the information presented.

 

[xoxodede]

@xoxodede

You should recommend some Black feminist works for us brehs to read since you reading Dr. Tommy Curry...

It's only fair...

Honestly, I have only read bell hooks. I like her -- and she's a Libra like me. Not really into reading about Feminism. If the C.O.W.S. wasn't covering "Man-Not" - I know I wouldn't have purchased it and tried to read/understand it. I don't usually read gender studies books.

• Ain't I a Woman?: Black women and feminism.

• We Real Cool: Black Men and Masculinity.

Oh - Alice Walker - the Color Purple -- but I just saw Minister Farrakhan lecture on the movie a few weeks ago.

And I can't look at the book/movie the same. It opened my eyes up to how BM were negatively portrayed in both the book and movie.

 

[AlainLocke]

Honestly, I have only read bell hooks. I like her -- and she's a Libra like me. Not really into reading about Feminism. If the C.O.W.S. wasn't covering "Man-Not" - I know I wouldn't have purchased it and tried to read/understand it. I don't usually read gender studies books.

• Ain't I a Woman?: Black women and feminism.

• We Real Cool: Black Men and Masculinity.

Oh - Alice Walker - the Color Purple -- but I just saw Minister Farrakhan lecture on the movie a few weeks ago.

And I can't look at the book/movie the same. It opened my eyes up to how BM were negatively portrayed in both the book and movie.

I read We Real Cool...

And yeah Color Purple did us in...

Produced and Directed by Spielberg...

Quincy Jones produced too...married to a Jew at that time...

Alice Walker married a Jew...

lol...what I said about Jews being behind Black people...just ended up in a Jew matrix...

 

[AlainLocke]

Also anybody that's reading or read ManNot...needs to read about Social Dominance Theory...that's what ManNot is is based on...

If you don't read about Social Dominance Theory (SDT(...you won't understand ManNot...

Social Dominance: An Intergroup Theory of Social Hierarchy and Oppression is by the originator of SDT

 

[Kitsch]

 

[Neuromancer]

Also anybody that's reading or read ManNot...needs to read about Social Dominance Theory...that's what ManNot is is based on...

If you don't read about Social Dominance Theory (SDT(...you won't understand ManNot...

Social Dominance: An Intergroup Theory of Social Hierarchy and Oppression is by the originator of SDT

will read up.

 

[Kitsch]

These people aren't well.

 

[David_TheMan]

Curry out here doing the Lord's work dismantling these weirdo c00n blacks.

 

[Kitsch]

Curry has another book dropping next year.

 

[AlainLocke]

Curry has another book dropping next year.

I think you posted the wrong link lol

 

[Kitsch]

I think you posted the wrong link lol

It's out now.

 

[AlainLocke]

It's out now.

Damn he like a one man army of Black male studies

 

[BillBanneker]

It's out now.

Man, looks like only digital copies are only on amazon right now.

 

[David_TheMan]

They suspended Dr. Curry's account again?
We need to make our own social media sites.

 

[Kitsch]