Dr Marcus Garvey Jr. The Arab Slave Trade

[Hip-Hop-Bulls]

You forgot to mention atheist. Aren't they included?

I didn't include them because they believe no god exist. And if you don't identify yourself as god then what prevents them from being comfortable with the world we live in today? Also the way I see it, people become atheist not only because they don't believe god exists but also to avoid saying that the black man is god, because in reality if you're an atheist you HAVE to know that you're the one in charge, but the white atheist don't want to say the black man is god and they're the devil, and blacks don't want to sound racist and say they're god even though greg mendel proved that. Understanding the power of god enables them to add on or take away w/e in their life. Atheist are critical thinkers until they think about god. Then they toss that critical thinking in the garbage and say the universe came from nothing. If atheist start saying god is within self then yeah you could include them as well but that goes against the point of being an atheist

peace

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Twism has implied it in the past. Other HL/KTL posters have str8 up said it. Also, Specifically for Black Americans the point that's emphasized is .... that they need to through "Islam in the bushes". ... for various reasons.. all of which lead to the post that ur responding to.

Nobody in this thread said black people who choose Islam are c00ns. This is higher learning... let's avoid strawmen.

 

[theworldismine13]

First off.. The American capitalist model doesn't focus on Education... ARE you serious??? At least not education for the masses, especially not for the lower classes.


American capitalism focuses on Materialism.. and materialism is destructive to our communities. Most poor blacks want a come up; they want the America fake ass dream like everyone else. Our media and government focuses on the stock market and big businesses to determine the health of our economy. We place a higher value on saving banks and promoting war than funding adequate education. This effects everyone of every race. Black people are so focused and caught up with this fake dream that they confuse materialism with seeking wealth. American brand capitalism promotes these ideas.

Killin fields need blood to graze the cash cow
It's a number game, but shyt don't add up somehow
Like I got, sixteen to thirty-two bars to rock it
but only 15% of profits, ever see my pockets like
sixty-nine billion in the last twenty years
spent on national defense but folks still live in fear like
nearly half of America's largest cities is one-quarter black
-Mos Def


And I feel black people need more than- to just focus on a romanticized view of economics and America.

im not romanticizing it, i do with america capitalism the same exact thing i do with religion or any other philosophies or any other leaders, i simply extract what i find useful

i brought up american capitalism because you were saying some gibberish about muslims and economics, which i found ludicrous, when it come to economics i follow the example of the people that did it best, which is the americans, and actually i think asian countries like japan, tawian and south korea are the best examples of how american style capitalism can lift up a country

when it comes to economics muslim countries are an example of what NOT to do

i dont try to hide or obfuscate where im coming from, when i say individual freedom and economic freedom and education are important, i got that from america, and i say that because from my studies that is how america came up in the world and those are the things black people need to extract from america

the future of this world belong to people that take the american economic model and improve on it, the future doesnt belong to people holding on to the philosophies of some ancient desert tribe

 

[Blackking]

im not romanticizing it, i do with america capitalism the same exact thing i do with religion or any other philosophies or any other leaders, i simply extract what i find useful

i brought up american capitalism because you were saying some gibberish about muslims and economics, which i found ludicrous, when it come to economics i follow the example of the people that did it best, which is the americans, and actually i think asian countries like japan, tawian and south korea are the best examples of how american style capitalism can lift up a country

when it comes to economics muslim countries are an example of what NOT to do

i dont try to hide or obfuscate where im coming from, when i say individual freedom and economic freedom and education are important, i got that from america, and i say that because from my studies that is how america came up in the world and those are the things black people need to extract from america

the future of this world belong to people that take the american economic model and improve on it, the future doesnt belong to people holding on to the philosophies of some ancient desert tribe

I don't think the economies of America or Saudia Arabia are the way to go. I like China, but that's just my person opinion.. for black people, Our blueprint can't simply be a copy... our situations are different than most of the world.

And most black Muslims I know are about money and economic power.. I'm not noi, but they are about that as well. So that's what I was saying.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

I like China, but that's just my person opinion..

Yeah let's follow the system that combines the worst aspects of statist corruption and capitol over labor excesses.

 

[theworldismine13]

i didint respond to this right away to give people a chance to respond and see where thay are at but what exactly is it that you find so amusing about a post calling marcus garvey a prophet?

if somebody had put a picture of this pedophile

and put some laughing smilies all the muslims would have gotten into a hissy fit

but some indian muslim laughs at marcus garvey being a prophet and black muslims just let it slide, disgusting

 

[Blackking]

Yeah let's follow the system that combines the worst aspects of statist corruption and capitol over labor excesses.

socialist political and economic system that plans their economy and growth along with import/exports is what I like about it. It seems to be working for them. We can talk about labor and those things, but the ideas of the system are what I like.

 

[theworldismine13]

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[theworldismine13]

I don't think the economies of America or Saudia Arabia are the way to go. I like China, but that's just my person opinion.. for black people, Our blueprint can't simply be a copy... our situations are different than most of the world.

And most black Muslims I know are about money and economic power.. I'm not noi, but they are about that as well. So that's what I was saying.

china is just an extension of american capitalism

 

[Blackking]

but some indian muslim laughs at marcus garvey being a prophet and black muslims just let it slide, disgusting

I don't get into a hissy fit over any pictures.

Garvey wasn't a prophet, he was a black nationalist. And this HL/KTL has confused me about What Indians are and what their views and limitations are. Some identify as part of our diaspora, some are Indian, some identify with causes, some hate on pro black causes. I didn't comment because I could be misinterpreting something. also because Garvey wasn't a prophet. If a white poster put up the pic and laughed, I would comment at that time.

 

[GetInTheTruck]

i didint respond to this right away to give people a chance to respond and see where thay are at but what exactly is it that you find so amusing about a post calling marcus garvey a prophet?

if somebody had put a picture of this pedophile

and put some laughing smilies all the muslims would have gotten into a hissy fit

but some indian muslim laughs at marcus garvey being a prophet and black muslims just let it slide, disgusting

I dont know who that is in that picture but that isn't Muhammad.

Garvey was who he was, but he wasn't no Prophet. You can take that how you want to take it.

Look at you though, in here calling Muhammad a Pedophile, Islam a desert religion, but I laugh at your notion of Garvey being a Prophet and you catching feelings damn son you soft.

 

[Blackking]

china is just an extension of american capitalism

Maybe you're right... but when I read about how it's changed over the years and come to what it is now... I don't see it as an Extension of American systems. Every world economy made adjustments as the world became more connected... I just like the way they did it the most.

Privatization is overboard in our nation, imo.

Exchange rates and trade is set up nice in China.. they take advantage of the most powerful economies on Earth, including the US

 

[theworldismine13]

I don't get into a hissy fit over any pictures.

Garvey wasn't a prophet, he was a black nationalist. And this HL/KTL has confused me about What Indians are and what their views and limitations are. Some identify as part of our diaspora, some are Indian, some identify with causes, some hate on pro black causes. I didn't comment because I could be misinterpreting something. also because Garvey wasn't a prophet. If a white poster put up the pic and laughed, I would comment at that time.

garvey is a prophet according to rastafarianism which is an actual black religion

the pedophile was a prophet according to some desert tribes that enslaved black people

lets connect the dots and talk about who is c00nin

 

[theworldismine13]

Maybe you're right... but when I read about how it's changed over the years and come to what it is now... I don't see it as an Extension of American systems. Every world economy made adjustments as the world became more connected... I just like the way they did it the most.

Privatization is overboard in our nation, imo.

Exchange rates and trade is set up nice in China.. they take advantage of the most powerful economies on Earth, including the US

china made a deliberate effort to turn away from communism and toward american style capitalism

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

I dont know who that is in that picture but that isn't Muhammad.

Garvey was who he was, but he wasn't no Prophet. You can take that how you want to take it.

Look at you though, in here calling Muhammad a Pedophile, Islam a desert religion, but I laugh at your notion of Garvey being a Prophet and you catching feelings damn son you soft.

Still, Muhammad is no more of a prophet than Garvey. They are both prophets to people who believe so in their respective faiths and by no one else. Don't at Garvey being a prophet then get all butthurt like you do when people disrespect "prophet" Muhammad.