Because you find a way to blame black people no matter the discussion....Boyce doesnt
pretty sure you can thank Dame for this interview as well,your welcome
Dr. Boyce Watkins Interview On The Breakfast Club
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Because you find a way to blame black people no matter the discussion....Boyce doesnt
pretty sure you can thank Dame for this interview as well,your welcome
If that's the rationalization then I can rock with it... but that's not Envy, because he spent a good minute of that interview lowkey bragging about his own entrepreneurial spirit. And if people who want to be employees for life simply said "I'm just not cut out to be the boss" then it would be cool, but these guys will jump through fire hoops to big up their philosophy which usually comes down to "I'm scared."Not everybody is cut out to be a boss
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jilla82
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you can't change your life until you're able to take responsibility for everything that goes on.Because you find a way to blame black people no matter the discussion....Boyce doesnt
worrying about shyt you can't control does you no good.
I say to you cats "there are tons of opportunity out there"…and y'all come back with "bu bu white supremacy"
Truth is…if you want to make it…regardless of race, class, gender etc…. You will make it.
All this shyt is about mindset.
jilla82
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when you start your own thing…what you love goes out the window because you are no longer just doing that.
You become a manager, marketer, etc…. You will no longer love that original thing that got you started.
The idea of Envy leaving that show to start his own only makes since at the time of contract negotiations…if the station doesn't want to pay up…then is the time for him to say "Ill just do it on my own"….but if they pay him what he believes he is worth, then by all means he should ride that wave…because it opens up doors in many other venues.
In all business, your main goal should be the most well known in your industry…because that is where the money is at. Being on that station gives him that…with minimal effort.
That's part of the risk you take. What you're saying would be valid if Dame Dash was 95 years old and expected to die tomorrow, but he's not (And I hate how this argument is always centered around Dame instead of entrepreneurship in general, but I understand it). There are down times and there are up times. People fall down and get back up all of the time.... the people with the actual courage to try it. Dame clearly has that courage and belief in himself, that's not something that should be looked down upon, it should be applauded. And looking at the interview of his son, he clearly has passed something down even more valuable to his son, and that's the mentality of building for self and not going out here building for someone else... that mentality is invaluable.There is definitely a lot to be said about mentality. There is a lot of headache involved with ownership that not everyone wants to go through. I personally don't think it's bad to have a job and work there. Envy has parlayed that into financial success and he can (assume he's generation 1 of his family's wealth) pass down many more opportunities to his children down the line.
Dame Dash is 2 Million dollars in debt. He has money but he is nowhere as liquid as Envy. He says he "hustles for his last name" but he can't really pass them down anything. Envy is stable and can pass down liquid tangible assets to his children - earned from working a job - whereas right now Dame can only pass down a "mentality". I guarantee if a black owned conglomerate offered Dame 50 million to be their ambassador he would take it in a heartbeat. Being an employee is corny to Dame but being broke is corny to everyone.
The difference here is when the average employee loses their job, they sit around afraid and scared, and lose all of their money, and put in 1,000,000 job applications hoping someone will give them a job, and that's how you end up with all of these people who are on unemployment for months and months. A true hustler, if he goes broke or his company fails or whatever, picks himself up, wipes the dirt off, and goes at it again, smarter this time. Dame Dash was an integral part of building a company worth hundreds of millions of dollars again... that's somebody I'd bet on.
Now not everybody has the self-confidence to bet everything on themselves and that's cool, but I don't see how you can have anything but admiration for somebody who DOES hold that confidence.
But is it the love or the money? If the point is "I'll make more money doing it this way (or I BELIEVE I will, because there's no limit to your success when you invest in self) working for somebody" then that's cool, but his point was "I work this job because I love to do radio." That doesn't make sense if all you're pushing is the idea that you love to do radio. If Envy said "I do this because I love to do radio AND I believe I reach the most people this way" or "I do this because I love to do radio AND I don't have confidence I can start my own station" or "I do this because I love radio AND I don't want the headache of running a whole station" then I could rock with it, but that's not what he's said.
And the bolded statement isn't necessarily true, it simply depends on who you are.
And once again, if the ONLY thing that matters is money to you then that's different, because that hasn't been what the point of this two-week long Dame discussion has been about.
I dont think DJ envy should be discussed to this extent, he has businesses and venture's
he also holds a job at the same time,which opened opportunities for him to do these things on the side(that ties in with his job),he's in the black( it seems) so all in all THIS hustle works for him
dame even said back then ,"if i do work for someone,they would have to pay me like a boss"
right now dame has a lot of businesses,that's his hustle,and it works for him
some want to leave businesses behind for their kids ,some wants to leave money,as long as you leave one of these things then its fine
he also holds a job at the same time,which opened opportunities for him to do these things on the side(that ties in with his job),he's in the black( it seems) so all in all THIS hustle works for him
dame even said back then ,"if i do work for someone,they would have to pay me like a boss"
right now dame has a lot of businesses,that's his hustle,and it works for him
some want to leave businesses behind for their kids ,some wants to leave money,as long as you leave one of these things then its fine
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jilla82
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I dont understand why he would leave the station…what would be the gain? just to say he did it?
He also DJ's on nights and weekends…having the Breakfast Club platform makes it so he can request more money because he is on the radio throughout the country.
The people w/ the largest Podcast audience still don't have the reach of the Breakfast Club. Adam Carolla and Joe Rogan aren't bringing home the same kind of bread (not even close) that an Envy can make from TBC (that fat dude in LA just signed a $10million contract).
Carolla and Rogan essentially do it as an ad for their comedy shows (they still make money though).
Ownership isn't everything…its a piece of the puzzle.
Now…I will say that ownership is extremely important when you're not happy.
Thats why I don't want to hear people always crying about white supremacy on here…start your own shyt then! Have some damn pride.
Like, when Chris Rock was promoting his movie talking about how studios don't give black folks enough chances…to me, what he said was nothing but playing to his audience, because if Rock really cared, he could start up a platform for black performers. But no, he would rather complain about white people then actually put that work in and do for himself and help his people out.
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We also have to convey that not all business is the same.There is definitely a lot to be said about mentality. There is a lot of headache involved with ownership that not everyone wants to go through. I personally don't think it's bad to have a job and work there. Envy has parlayed that into financial success and he can (assume he's generation 1 of his family's wealth) pass down many more opportunities to his children down the line.
Dame Dash is 2 Million dollars in debt. He has money but he is nowhere as liquid as Envy. He says he "hustles for his last name" but he can't really pass them down anything. Envy is stable and can pass down liquid tangible assets to his children - earned from working a job - whereas right now Dame can only pass down a "mentality". I guarantee if a black owned conglomerate offered Dame 50 million to be their ambassador he would take it in a heartbeat. Being an employee is corny to Dame but being broke is corny to everyone.
dame basically is doing low-quality shyt trying to pass it off as legit at this point.
Entertainment money is so phony sometimes.
Envy aint no real boss.I dont think DJ envy should be discussed to this extent, he has businesses and venture's
he also holds a job at the same time,which opened opportunities for him to do these things on the side(that ties in with his job),he's in the black( it seems) so all in all THIS hustle works for him
dame even said back then ,if he does work for someone,they would have to pay him like a boss
right now dame has a lot of businesses,that's his hustle,and it works for him
some want to leave businesses behind for their kids ,some wants to leave money,as long as you leave one of these things then its fine
He's a goddamn DJ...and he doesn't even produce. Without the radio paycheck, he's really not that big of an influence out here.
Entertainment dudes stay inflating their worth and value. They really forget how insignificant entertainment and all these "hobby" ventures truly are.
I'm not asking him to leave the station. I don't care if he does either way. I can't tell anyone what to do or not do with their lives.
I just have a problem with his reasoning for having a job and trying to bang the idea of being an employee into people's heads being "I love doing what I do" when one has nothing to do with the other. If it's all about just doing what you love to do, you can do it for free, you can do it as an entrepreneur, you can do it as an employee. My issue is with what Envy is actually SAYING, not with what you're saying... if Envy said what you said, I never would have said anything about it, but he didn't and he doesn't.
