You're purposely being obtuse. He doesn't average 7 turnovers in a game let alone a half so you're nit picking 1 game. Secondly, Schroeder had a high usage rate and played enough games with LeBron and Russ has already surpassed him. Third, you can watch the games and see how much Russ is making Bron's life easier. Now, is Russ making the team better as a whole? that's questionable at times but for Bron in particular, he has elite chemistry with Bron and I'd wager to bet that they're in the top 3-4 duos as far as assisted baskets in the entire league. There's one thing you can't deny this season and that's Russ getting Bron easy baskets.
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You're purposely being obtuse. He doesn't average 7 turnovers in a game let alone a half so you're nit picking 1 game. Secondly, Schroeder had a high usage rate and played enough games with LeBron and Russ has already surpassed him. Third, you can watch the games and see how much Russ is making Bron's life easier. Now, is Russ making the team better as a whole? that's questionable at times but for Bron in particular, he has elite chemistry with Bron and I'd wager to bet that they're in the top 3-4 duos as far as assisted baskets in the entire league. There's one thing you can't deny this season and that's Russ getting Bron easy baskets.
steph_harden
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How Is he making Bron’s job easier by being a net negative on the court every game? He does one thing right and that’s push the tempo
He plays no defense
He turns the ball over at a historic rate
He can’t create his own shot
He can’t make open shots
He telegraphs passes often
Like fastbreak assists are nice but what about all the other things that contribute to winning games?
You’d rather look at the glass as half full and focus on the positives…that’s cool. The problem is the negatives are outweighing that by a lot right now
ALonelyDad
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The biggest issue with him is zero accountability, how hard is it to say I need to be better.
How Is he making Bron’s job easier by being a net negative on the court every game? He does one thing right and that’s push the tempo
He plays no defense
He turns the ball over at a historic rate
He can’t create his own shot
He can’t make open shots
He telegraphs passes often
Like fastbreak assists are nice but what about all the other things that contribute to winning games?
You’d rather look at the glass as half full and focus on the positives…that’s cool. The problem is the negatives are outweighing that by a lot right now
that has nothing to do with anything I said. I'm speaking on Russ and Bron in particular. In fact, I addressed all of this above. Russ makes Bron's life easier by getting him easy baskets. Did you watch the Lakers last season? Bron had to create everything for himself, rarely if ever did anyone find him at the rim, find him cutting, etc. Now is Russ making the Lakers better? That's arguable but for Bron in particular, Russ has been finding him for easy baskets that he hasn't seen in the past 3 years. Their chemistry has literally been elite. I'm just speaking on that dynamic not as a team.
steph_harden
Superstar
But Bron plays for the Lakers. So if a guy is doing one thing that helps me but a bunch of other things that affect me in a negative manner then is he really making my life easier? If Bron just wanted a guy to feed him in transition the Lakers could have gotten Ish Smith at 1/10th the price. Rondo had more lobs to AD than any other player by far you think that was enough to outweigh what he didn’t do…just because he “made AD’s life easier” in one particular area?
Nah I don’t think so..
Russ is averaging 20/8/8 on 45% shooting. This is exactly what I mean by his perception and reality is not matching up. Yes, we should have just gotten Ish Smith instead.
Bron has missed 12 games, AD has missed 11 games. Take away Russ and substitute that with Ish, we would have been even worse off than we are now when you factor in those games missed. Call me a half glass full but you're the definition of seeing what you want to see. In your eyes, all Russ does is grab the ball and throw it out of bounds.
Family Lives Matter
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You right breh he's a great pick up and the best signing the Lakers have made in 30 years.
Nevermind him shytting the bed in every other aspect of the game he is getting a player who isn't a jumpshooter and is fully capable of getting his own baskets easy assists which have lead to use being barely 500.
You made a great point
How Is he making Bron’s job easier by being a net negative on the court every game? He does one thing right and that’s push the tempo
He plays no defense
He turns the ball over at a historic rate
He can’t create his own shot
He can’t make open shots
He telegraphs passes often
Like fastbreak assists are nice but what about all the other things that contribute to winning games?
You’d rather look at the glass as half full and focus on the positives…that’s cool. The problem is the negatives are outweighing that by a lot right now
To be fair he’s going a great job at finding Lebron in pick and roll situations as well as getting Bron the ball on entry passes.
steph_harden
Superstar
Russ is averaging 20/8/8 on 45% shooting. This is exactly what I mean by his perception and reality is not matching up. Yes, we should have just gotten Ish Smith instead.
Bron has missed 12 games, AD has missed 11 games. Take away Russ and substitute that with Ish, we would have been even worse off than we are now when you factor in those games missed. Call me a half glass full but you're the definition of seeing what you want to see. In your eyes, all Russ does is grab the ball and throw it out of bounds.
You say Russ is making Bron’s life easier by finding him for easy looks in transition. I’m saying if that’s all Russ is going to contribute then they might as have well just gotten Ish smith…not literally go get ish smith
The brought him in to be a dynamic player and he’s simply not. What else is he doing for the team? You yourself agree that he’s a detriment to the team. So what are you arguing about? And you really gonna throw Russ’ stats in there like it means a lot? The mans usage rate is damn near as high as Bron’s.
I don't see what this has to do with the tweet
first you bring up irrelevant points to a tweet and now you're putting words in my mouth. do everyone a favor and stay out of this thread like you've been doing this entire season.
You say Russ is making Bron’s life easier by finding him for easy looks in transition. I’m saying if that’s all Russ is going to contribute then they might as have well just gotten Ish smith…not literally go get ish smith
The brought him in to be a dynamic player and he’s simply not. What else is he doing for the team? You yourself agree that he’s a detriment to the team. So what are you arguing about? And you really gonna throw Russ’ stats in there like it means a lot? The mans usage rate is damn near as high as Bron’s.
I never said he was a detriment to the team.
In fact, I'm saying the opposite which I've said all season. I've said that he pushes the pace which is great for the team and Bron but it's also detrimental at times which is why he averages so many turnovers and takes woat layup attempts. That's one aspect he needs to work on but it's also what makes him great at times. Every player has bad traits, that doesn't mean they are detrimental to the team. At this point im not going back and forth with people who are purposely being dishonest.
steph_harden
Superstar
I never said he was a detriment to the team.
In fact, I'm saying the opposite which I've said all season. I've said that he pushes the pace which is great for the team and Bron but it's also detrimental at times which is why he averages so many turnovers and takes woat layup attempts. That's one aspect he needs to work on but it's also what makes him great at times. Every player has bad traits, that doesn't mean they are detrimental to the team. At this point im not going back and forth with people who are purposely being dishonest.
So what exactly are u saying when you say this
And I agree with you….Russ brings some good things to table. But his negatives are outweighing his positives and there’s no way around that. The fact that the only thing u can point to is “his transition passes to Bron” shows how bad he’s been. Because the Lakers didn’t just trade for Russ for that. They traded for Russ to be a dynamic multifaceted superstar. This nikka is making 44mil a year…he’s the highest paid player on the team. His production isn’t even close to that.
Depending on what other offers are on the table for Grant, I wonder if Rob might try to get Williams from OKC or Torrey Craig(Both 6'7 wings). Both can be had for second round picks and min contracts most likely
Then you still have THT/Nunn if you still want to move them and think you can get something good
Then you still have THT/Nunn if you still want to move them and think you can get something good
So what exactly are u saying when you say this
And I agree with you….Russ brings some good things to table. But his negatives are outweighing his positives and there’s no way around that. The fact that the only thing u can point to is “his transition passes to Bron” shows how bad he’s been. Because the Lakers didn’t just trade for Russ for that. They traded for Russ to be a dynamic multifaceted superstar. This nikka is making 44mil a year…he’s the highest paid player on the team. His production isn’t even close to that.
"that's arguable"
meaning someone could argue that. It's not something I would argue but I can understand why someone would see it that way.
You're searching for things that aren't there. My feelings on Russ good and bad are in this thread, they're easy to find, no need to manipulate my words.
I also never said transition passes to Bron. In fact, it's moreso in the halfcourt. You're once again being dishonest.