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When Bron wins another ring in a Lakers uniform
You fakkits will be heated
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Dr. Narcisse
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A bit of revisionist history.
Plenty of people was complaining about Vogel prior to that. Even some wondering if he coasting on the championship and going back to his Orlando days.
However, ultimately LeBron/AD only playing 22 games together did the team in. Even with Russ's sabotage.
You fire Vogel if you're seriously thinking of trading AD. AD is what made Frank's defense really go.
gonna be 3 coaches in 5 seasons with Bron
Kobe had 6 coaches (not counting interims) in 20 seasons
Cause Kobe had Phil Jackson (literally one of the greatest coaches ever) for the majority of his career. Vogel has lasted longer with Bron than any Kobe coach not named Phil and Kobe's overall coach turnover rate was worse than Bron's outside of the GOAT coach.
Under Kobe:
Del Harris: 2+ seasons
Kurt Rambis: 1/2 season
Rudy Tomjanovich: 1/2 season
Frank Hamblen: 1/2 season
Mike Brown: 1 season
Mike D'Antoni: 2 seasons
Byron Scott: 2 seasons
Under Bron:
Luke Walton: 1 season
Frank Vogel: 3 seasons
You thought you had something there.
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People were complaining year 1 but gave him praise because he did adjust ultimately in the playoffs and was good. I personally always gave him a pass in year 2 because that Andre Drummond shyt and forcing him to play 25 mins was out of his hand. But you are right at the end of the day, if your top 2 guys are missing time like the last 2 years you wont do anything. Frank was able to skate last year because our role players were solid, this year they were not. All I am saying is in terms of blame, he is not in top 3 even if people think we should have moved on.
Really can’t see the Lakers job being attractive on and off the court.
Gotta deal with a inconsistent super political FO and an demanding fanbase off court and on court, an aging superstar, an oft injured #2, a beleaguered star PG and cast of misfits.
Coaching Bron and Russ at this point in their careers gotta be an extreme challenge. Who has enough clout to gain their respect?
Gotta deal with a inconsistent super political FO and an demanding fanbase off court and on court, an aging superstar, an oft injured #2, a beleaguered star PG and cast of misfits.
Coaching Bron and Russ at this point in their careers gotta be an extreme challenge. Who has enough clout to gain their respect?
Damn yall said fukk this last game. It's a ghost town in here. Austin Reeves and Monk having their best games all season
What's the matter? Just treat it like yall treated Kobe's last game
Where yall at?
Send this whole thread to the bushes
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Denver didn't give a shyt and played zero defense that game. If Bron had been in and scored 50-60 to take the scoring title this board would have had a fukking meltdown.
MenacingMonk
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Can't even put a quarter of the blame on Vogel. Dude helped the organization with 2 winning seasons and a chip. Team was destined to fail after game 1. Team didn't gel, injuries, a 
roster mixed with some nobodies. Shoulda rolled another season with him. 
roster mixed with some nobodies. Shoulda rolled another season with him.
Dr. Narcisse
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Nah breh we saw lots of complaints about Frank year 2. I just think for Frank to really work he NEEDED AD looking like Giannis/Embiid and Bron playing more of a PG role. That slow tempo/Big defensive lineup was gold for him.
However, once it you added new parts he had his issues and should have been strong enough to move/re-insert guys. And its hard to blame just Drummond when we still had injuries as well.
I don't blame him. I just think Vogel is limited. There's really just one style we can win with him.
As much as we crapped on Kuzma. I think that was the most mismanaged player.
I had no problem with Vogel staying if they really believed that once moving Russ they had a plan to get AD physically right. I think this opens the door to trading him IMO.
Ironically, it was probably JKidd. Who many thought would sabotage Vogel...before Sabo.
I think Russ is traded so they are going with a fresh start overall.
I can't imagine anyone with options taking the job if Russ is still there. The Lakers getting rid of Russ has to be a demand for anyone before they sign that contract.
With Bron there doesn't seem to be problems so long as the job is getting done. In 2020 LeBron was executing Vogel's systems extremely well on the way to the title. And this year he was literally the only thing keeping Vogel alive on the offensive end (much like he did for Mike Brown for years). The main issue is that you know he has the power to ask for your head if you ain't getting stuff done.
They gave up 141 points to a team that rested its entire starting lineup and played G-leaguers most of the game.
Won a bubble championship only to be escorted to the parking lot as soon as the next season ended
Wow you remain incredibly ignorant.
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