Dominicans of Haitian descent got their citizenship revoked

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Oh believe me I've read about the history of Haiti quite thoroughly and its abundantly clear that the reason the country is a dump is because of it's people and leaders. Enough with the excuses.

then reread it again because based on the nonsense your spouting here, your beyond stupid and clearly didn't learn shyt. Haiti acquired its independence in the late 1700's and has been sanctioned and harassed since. Dominican Republic was granted its freedom by Spain, and was allowed to thrive in relative peace from outside agitators. But despite that, you stupid fukks STILL had military strongmen killing people indiscriminantly and running the country, all with US backed funds and support. Dominican Republic is no better than Haiti you stupid moron. You guys are just BETTER c00ns. I still love you fukkers because ultimately your African, hence your BLACK skin, but by God your people are fukkING STUPID.
 

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How many times do we have to go over this? Yes Germany and Japan did receive a lot of aid to rebuild their countries and they were able to use that aid to turn their countries into prosperous nations. Meanwhile Haiti has received just as much if not more aid over the years yet it remains a disgusting filthy dump you fukking retard. I'm willing to bet you're Haitian aren't you ? :scusthov:

So then why are you comparing unbridled funds to build infrastructure given to local business in Japan and Germany to AIDE raised by the AIDE organizations, who funds are generally used and managed by US ran and organized organizations? Look up the Clinton Global Initiative you dumb fukking idiot. Very little of ANY AIDE dollars actually gets used for the average citizen. That fat fukk Billy Clinton is using that Haiti money to build fukking resorts that his company is managing! Meanwhile shanty towns in Haiti are proliferating at a ridiculous rate.

So the lesson is unlimited support and funding is FAR different than AIDE packages you stupid moron. Pull your head out of your ass and get a clue.
 

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then reread it again because based on the nonsense your spouting here, your beyond stupid and clearly didn't learn shyt. Haiti acquired its independence in the late 1700's and has been sanctioned and harassed since. Dominican Republic was granted its freedom by Spain, and was allowed to thrive in relative peace from outside agitators. But despite that, you stupid fukks STILL had military strongmen killing people indiscriminantly and running the country, all with US backed funds and support. Dominican Republic is no better than Haiti you stupid moron. You guys are just BETTER c00ns. I still love you fukkers because ultimately your African, hence your BLACK skin, but by God your people are fukkING STUPID.
Plenty of countries have gone through struggles and hardships far worse than Haiti. has yet they were able to rebuild themselves into prosperity in a relatively short period of time (Japan, Germany). Haiti hasn't faced these so called sanctions and harassment in over 100 years yet it still remains a dump. How much time does it need? Enough with the excuses already.
 

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yeah I was simply corrected yet you guys have yet post one verifiable source that says DR is not a near first world country yet i have posted an article that backs up my claim :snoop:

A developing country is a nation with a low living standard, underdeveloped industrial base, and low Human Development Index (HDI) relative to other countries

Over the last few decades, the term Third World has been used interchangeably with the Global South and Developing Countries to describe poorer countries that have struggled to attain steady economic development


Dominicans wouldnt be risking their lives to reach Puerto Rico by homemade boat if they were a near first world country

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developing_country

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_World

http://www.isi-web.org/component/content/article/5-root/root/81-developing

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/appendix/appendix-b.html#D
developing countries
a term used by the International Monetary Fund (IMF) for the bottom group in its hierarchy of advanced economies, countries in transition, and developing countries; IMF statistics include the following 126 developing countries:
...Dominican Republic...

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Yet you dumb ass nikkas want to go to that shytty country for vacation. I'm not Haitian but this is an obvious attack on black people. Go peep the history of how these dumincians treat black people. They are no better than the racist American CACs.
I hope the Haitians overrun that Country.
Or the Haitians can fix their shythole of a country. If they get their shyt together they wouldn't have to depend on another country that treats them like shyt.
 

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So then why are you comparing unbridled funds to build infrastructure given to local business in Japan and Germany to AIDE raised by the AIDE organizations, who funds are generally used and managed by US ran and organized organizations? Look up the Clinton Global Initiative you dumb fukking idiot. Very little of ANY AIDE dollars actually gets used for the average citizen. That fat fukk Billy Clinton is using that Haiti money to build fukking resorts that his company is managing! Meanwhile shanty towns in Haiti are proliferating at a ridiculous rate.

So the lesson is unlimited support and funding is FAR different than AIDE packages you stupid moron. Pull your head out of your ass and get a clue.
So all of this isn't enough? How much help do these people need? :mindblown:

U.S. economic and development assistance
Political insecurity and the failure of Haiti's governments to invest in developing the country's natural and human resources contribute significantly to the country's current state of underdevelopment. U.S. efforts to strengthen democracy and to rebuild Haiti's economy aim to rectify this condition. The U.S. has been Haiti's largest donor since 1973. Between the fiscal years of 1995 and 1999, the U.S. contributed roughly $884 million in assistance to Haiti.

Among the initiatives United States funds have supported are:

  • Food assistance programs that include a school lunch program that feeds around 500,000 children daily
  • Agricultural development programs that have endeavored to revitalize Haiti's coffee sector and to help thousands of Haitian farmers adopt sustainable agricultural practices and protect the environment
  • Teacher training programs that have included 6,000 educators at the primary and secondary level
  • Population programs that have expanded modern family planning practices in many rural areas
  • Health care programs that have supported child immunization and have helped provide primary care to nearly half of the Haitian population
Human Resources
In addition to financial support, the U.S. provides human resources. Many private U.S. citizens travel regularly to Haiti or reside there for extended periods to work in humanitarian projects. There is currently no Peace Corps program in Haiti, and Peace Corps volunteers living in the neighboring Dominican Republic are prohibited from crossing the border.

Economic development
Haiti has been plagued for decades by extremely high unemployment and underemployment. The precipitous decline in urban assembly sector jobs, from a high of 80,000 in 1986 to fewer than 17,000 in 1994, exacerbated the scarcity of jobs. To revitalize the economy, U.S. assistance has attempted to create opportunities for stable, sustainable employment for the growing population, particularly those who comprise the country's vast informal economy. A post-intervention transitional program of short-term job creation, principally in small towns and rural areas, provided employment to as many as 50,000 workers per day throughout the country. More recently, programs that help to increase commercial bank lending to small- and medium-scale entrepreneurs, especially in the agricultural sector, have helped to create jobs and foster economic growth.

Additional U.S. efforts in economic revitalization include the establishment of the U.S.-Haiti Business Development Council, an Overseas Private Investment Corporation commercial loan program, and inclusion of Haiti within the Caribbean Basin Initiative. These efforts provide greater market opportunities for American and Haitian businesses. Current Congressional prohibitions on providing assistance to or through the Haitian government has accelerated the move to private voluntary agencies as contractors to oversee the use of U.S. aid funds.

Throughout the 2001–2004 time period the United States Chamber of Commerce backed a government aid embargo upon Haiti's elected Aristide government. This led to economic decline and innumerable suffering. Haiti's government budget was approximately 30-40 percent dependent on the cut-off aid.
 

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Well it's about cotdamn time.

I'm kidding. I don't know what this is about. My grandmother was half Haitian. Does this affect me?


Over the past seven years the Dominican government has rewritten its constitution and reinterpreted old laws, effectively eliminating birthright citizenship. Since 26 January 2010, citizens must prove that they have at least one parent of Dominican nationality to be recognised. In other words, if you are a person born to undocumented Haitian parents living in the Dominican Republic, you no longer have the right to Dominican citizenship even if you have lived there your whole life.

Not only that, but the rules are being applied retroactively to people which contravenes the American convention of human rights under the Organisation of American States, to which the Dominican Republic is a signatory.

The Dominican authorities argue that people falling foul of the new ruling should apply for Haitian citizenship, even though they may not speak Creole or ever have set foot in Haiti. In any case, Haitian rules require them to have lived in Haiti for at least five years. This means that thousands of Haitian people living in the Dominican Republic are now effectively stateless. The situation is unjust and impractical, not to mention illegal under the human rights act.


http://www.theguardian.com/global-d...t/03/haiti-dominican-republic-citizenship-law
 

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Or the Haitians can fix their shythole of a country. If they get their shyt together they wouldn't have to depend on another country that treats them like shyt.
Exactly. But instead of the Haitians being accountable and getting their shyt together they make excuses, point the fingers at others, or run off into another country instead of fixing their own :snoop:
 

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Over the past seven years the Dominican government has rewritten its constitution and reinterpreted old laws, effectively eliminating birthright citizenship. Since 26 January 2010, citizens must prove that they have at least one parent of Dominican nationality to be recognised. In other words, if you are a person born to undocumented Haitian parents living in the Dominican Republic, you no longer have the right to Dominican citizenship even if you have lived there your whole life.

Not only that, but the rules are being applied retroactively to people which contravenes the American convention of human rights under the Organisation of American States, to which the Dominican Republic is a signatory.

The Dominican authorities argue that people falling foul of the new ruling should apply for Haitian citizenship, even though they may not speak Creole or ever have set foot in Haiti. In any case, Haitian rules require them to have lived in Haiti for at least five years. This means that thousands of Haitian people living in the Dominican Republic are now effectively stateless. The situation is unjust and impractical, not to mention illegal under the human rights act.

http://www.theguardian.com/global-d...t/03/haiti-dominican-republic-citizenship-law
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Why are nikkas arguing with a Dominic00ns. If he support this law then he should have no problem supporting a U.S law to deport his ass back to the Dominican Republic. I have no problem with them Dominic00ns denying citizenship to 1st gen Haitians it's their country :ehh:

But to revoked citizenship of 2nd and 3rd gen Dominicans bc you c00ns wanna disassociate ya'selves with your African ancestry is the definition of a people that hate themselves. Little do those fools know they are still considered second class humans in the eyes of whites but c00ns gone c00n
 

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So Haiti being taxed into poverty over 200 years ago is an excuse for that country to be a dump today? :russ: Japan and Germany were DEVASTATED in WWII only 70 years ago but they've managed to rebuild themselves into 2 of the most successful countries in the world. Yet Haiti can't seem to get it's act together over 200 years after it was supposedly taxed into poverty ? :heh:

Haiti has received billions upon billions of dollars in donation and charity yet it remains the poorest country in the western hemisphere. They'll never get it together.'

You're an idiot
:snoop: this is among the dumbest shyt i have read on this forum. please go and educate yourself before you continue to take part in this discussion.
 

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Why are nikkas arguing with a Dominic00ns. If he support this law then he should have no problem supporting a U.S law to deport his ass back to the Dominican Republic. I have no problem with them Dominic00ns denying citizenship to 1st gen Haitians it's their country :ehh:

But to revoked citizenship of 2nd and 3rd gen Dominicans bc you c00ns wanna disassociate ya'selves with your African ancestry is the definition of a people that hate themselves. Little do those fools know they are still considered second humans in the eyes of whites but c00ns gone c00n
Seriously.. Seeing some of these nikkas associating themselves with Spain and other eurocentric bullshyt is disheartening. Like wake the fukk up you goya bean eating ass motherfukker.
 
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