Does prime Roy Jones Jr. have a chance against prime Sugar Ray Robinson?

[DrX]

There's records and archival footage that show the comp he was facing
..fucc is you talking about?



Anyway,


Funny thing about SRR is that as great as all the video we have of him shows him...there's no footage of him during his 'prime' so it got better

Dude was fighting flat footed local dudes....rjj fought guys around the globe

 

[Strapped]

sugar ray robinson would ko roy jones

 

[Black White Sox Hat]

If you what you mean by stand a chance is killed sugar ray robinson then yes you would be correct.

Now take sugar ray robinson and put him in this era with the same training and conditioning as rjj then who knows.Sugar might win.

But no black and white film fighter gonna stand a chance against greats of this era.

 

[Malta]

Nobody beats Roy @ Middleweight...to big, to fast, to powerful and to skilled at that weight.

Very unorthodox too.

 

[The Fukin Prophecy]

Good tough matchup...

If Roy stays on his feet he probably wins this one but I would bet against that...

I think this would be a very good competitive back and forth type of matchup but at some point SRR would catch Roy with something clean...SRR had the ability to do that, something none of these clowns on Roy's highlight real had...We know Roy can't take a clean punch and SRR was an extremely good accurate puncher with equally quick hands...There is a reason that man is highly regarded as the best P4P fighter of all time...His intelligence, elegance, smoothness, speed and power transcended the sport...He could box 15 rounds with the best and brawl 15 rounds with the best...Styles didn't matter to SRR and nor did weight...

 

[Achille]

Good tough matchup...

If Roy stays on his feet he probably wins this one but I would bet against that...

I think this would be a very good competitive back and forth type of matchup but at some point SRR would catch Roy with something clean...SRR had the ability to do that, something none of these clowns on Roy's highlight real had...We know Roy can't take a clean punch and SRR was an extremely good accurate puncher with equally quick hands...There is a reason that man is highly regarded as the best P4P fighter of all time...His intelligence, elegance, smoothness, speed and power transcended the sport...He could box 15 rounds with the best and brawl 15 rounds with the best...Styles didn't matter to SRR and nor did weight...

So Jones never had a chin and never got hit flush until he was knockdown or knocked out? So a guy that had over 30 professional fights didn't get hit at all? He's sparred/fought with Gerald Mcclellan who was one of the hardest hitters out there numerous times as an amateur and was able to take his punches fine. Roy got knockdown by Lou Devalle, other then that his chin was pretty good until the weight drop from HW to LHW. Jones took plenty of clean shots prior to that move. Lou Devalle was the only one prior to weight drop to be able to put him on his behind. Everybody else that knocked him out, after he was already damaged goods by the weight drop.

 

[The Fukin Prophecy]

So Jones never had a chin and never got hit flush until he was knockdown or knocked out?

Correct.

There is a difference between getting hit and getting hit CLEAN...There is also a big difference between sparring and an actual sanctioned fight...

Post me one fight in Roy's MW career where he got chin checked with a clean punch...That means a punch that landed flush on his chin, no leather, no shoulder no forearms...A clean punch straight to the chin...I will tell you right now you won't find one because Roy in his prime hardly ever got touched let alone hit cleanly...

Roy was a master at avoiding clean punches...That ability, his reflexes and power is what made him great....Roy though was never a good technical boxer hence his hard fall from grace when he slowed down and started to get hit cleanly...

You put him in the ring with a crafty boxer puncher like SRR who is just as quick as RJJ and that chin is getting checked...I know and have seen enough to bet against Roy's chin taking a clean punch from a puncher the caliber of SRR...

 

[Achille]

Correct.

There is a difference between getting hit and getting hit CLEAN...There is also a big difference between sparring and an actual sanctioned fight...

Post me one fight in Roy's MW career where he got chin checked with a clean punch...That means a punch that landed flush on his chin, no leather, no shoulder no forearms...A clean punch straight to the chin...I will tell you right now you won't find one because Roy in his prime hardly ever got touched let alone hit cleanly...

Roy was a master at avoiding clean punches...That ability, his reflexes and power is what made him great....Roy though was never a good technical boxer hence his hard fall from grace when he slowed down and started to get hit cleanly...

You put him in the ring with a crafty boxer puncher like SRR who is just as quick as RJJ and that chin is getting checked...I know and have seen enough to bet against Roy's chin taking a clean punch from a puncher the caliber of SRR...

Looks pretty cleaned to me.

 

[The Fukin Prophecy]

Looks pretty cleaned to me.

Yes it does, I stand corrected...

I've watched that fight a couple of times and don't remember Roy getting hit like that...That must of been either a shory left or a jab...Nard wasn't a big puncher though like SRR and was a far better boxer in his 30s-40s...

Regardless though that is indeed a clean punch...Any idea what round it occurred?

 

[Achille]

Yes it does, I stand corrected...

I've watched that fight a couple of times and don't remember Roy getting hit like that...That must of been either a shory left or a jab...Nard wasn't a big puncher though like SRR and was a far better boxer in his 30s-40s...

Regardless though that is indeed a clean punch...Any idea what round it occurred?

Yo @krackdagawd Help your bro's out with this.

 

[Knicksman20]

Looks pretty cleaned to me.

Was just about to say this. Also JT caught him twice in their fight when RJJ staggered him. JT tried to play it off like he wasn't stunned & countered RJ nice but it didn't move him.

 

[Knicksman20]

Correct.

There is a difference between getting hit and getting hit CLEAN...There is also a big difference between sparring and an actual sanctioned fight...

Post me one fight in Roy's MW career where he got chin checked with a clean punch...That means a punch that landed flush on his chin, no leather, no shoulder no forearms...A clean punch straight to the chin...I will tell you right now you won't find one because Roy in his prime hardly ever got touched let alone hit cleanly...

Roy was a master at avoiding clean punches...That ability, his reflexes and power is what made him great....Roy though was never a good technical boxer hence his hard fall from grace when he slowed down and started to get hit cleanly...

You put him in the ring with a crafty boxer puncher like SRR who is just as quick as RJJ and that chin is getting checked...I know and have seen enough to bet against Roy's chin taking a clean punch from a puncher the caliber of SRR...

Start it at 1:47-2:12. 1:54 is where RJ lands the left hook that stuns JT & watch for the clean counters JT lands

 

[Achille]

How about Jones taking a HW punch.

 

[Knicksman20]

How about Jones taking a HW punch.

2:45-3:00 If his chin was as bad people nowadays try to revise & say he NEVER would've been able to take these punches from a HW

 

[R=G]

Sugar Ray Robinson is the definition of greatness but I don't think Jones would get hit clean in his prime. Robinson had those ripping left hook combos but Roy's speed was one of a kind.