Does infinity exist?

[Ciggavelli]

This doesn't make any sense.

The quality of "nothingness" has no value on whether or not something exists now.

You are making a statement that "nothing can never exist"...which is an assertion to which you have yet to prove.

Stop speaking in absolutes and you won't have this problem.

How does it not make sense? If there is no time, what does that mean?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

If there is no time, there is just "now," right?

You're missing the point.

"time" is not a thing, its a quality of space and gravity of which we get the perception of "time"

Read Sean Carroll's books or something.

take soem free lectures on quantum physics or something. This is just a profound misunderstanding.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

when I get the time I'll watch the hour long talk

I shifted to virtual nothing because that is the only thing that can ever make sense to me at this point in time, in regard to your assertion that absolutely nothing can exist

I didn't assert that, you have.

 

[Ciggavelli]

You're missing the point.

"time" is not a thing, its a quality of space and gravity of which we get the perception of "time"

Read Sean Carroll's books or something.

take soem free lectures on quantum physics or something. This is just a profound misunderstanding.

I'm familiar with what time is. You still haven't answered my question about what the ramifications of not having "time" are

I didn't assert that, you have.

excuse me, your assertion that absolutely nothing can possibly exist

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I'm familiar with what time is. You still haven't answered my question about what the ramifications of not having "time" are

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excuse me, your assertion that absolutely nothing can possibly exist

Listen.

There could or could not have been a period in the past (or future) where "nothing" will exist.

We don't know one way or the other if this is true.

 

[Ciggavelli]

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Listen.

There could or could not have been a period in the past (or future) where "nothing" will exist.

We don't know one way or the other if this is true.

You keep talking about time, but it doesn't exist according to you, it's just a perception. You gotta stop that, it's not helping you.

There was never was a "time" and never will be a "time" when absolutely nothing can exist, because something exists (our thoughts, for example). If something exists, then that necessarily means that absolutely nothing is impossible

 

[Mountain]

Prove it.

You're assuming this can never happen. if you're going to speak in absolutes, then you're going to face this problem.

I did using deductive reasoning, its now up to you to falsify my assertions.

@Napoleon is not content with that. He wants me to prove that absolutely nothing can never exist. Which I feel I have, but clearly I haven't in his mind. Any help would be appreciated

Bruh you need to realise something, nikkas like napoleon are either one of two things: disingenuous or straight up dumb. You will never get them to admit they are mistaken so you shouldnt waste youre time.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

You keep talking about time, but it doesn't exist according to you, it's just a perception. You gotta stop that, it's not helping you.

I never brought up time, you did. I told you were your perception of time was flawed.

There was never was a "time" and never will be a "time" when absolutely nothing can exist, because something exists (our thoughts, for example).

YOU HAVE NOT DEMONSTRATED THIS!

Why do you keep saying this shyt man?

Goddamn. Don't you get tired of repeating yourself?

You don't know if there was ever a point where "nothing" existed.

You simply don't.

If something exists, then that necessarily means that absolutely nothing is impossible

No, it doesn't.

The existence of something has no bearing on whether or not a period of "nothingness" ever existed.

 

[kp404]

Bruh you need to realise something, nikkas like napoleon are either one of two things: disingenuous or straight up dumb. You will never get them to admit they are mistaken so you shouldnt waste youre time.

truth.com

 

[Ciggavelli]

I did using deductive reasoning, its now up to you to falsify my assertions.



Bruh you need to realise something, nikkas like napoleon are either one of two things: disingenuous or straight up dumb. You will never get them to admit they are mistaken so you shouldnt waste youre time.

I know I shouldn't waste my time, but I'm actually writing something on this for a project I'm working on, and his outrageous claims are helping in some small way

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I did using deductive reasoning, its now up to you to falsify my assertions.

Thats not how the burden of proof works jackass.

You assert something, you prove it.

I'm not responsible for cleaning up your argument for you.

Bruh you need to realise something, nikkas like napoleon are either one of two things: disingenuous or straight up dumb. You will never get them to admit they are mistaken so you shouldnt waste youre time.

What the fukk am I mistaken about?

You guys keep saying shyt that does NOT make any sense and then use half assed understandings of cosmology to support even further fukked up assertions you havent even substantiated.

Its a house of cards on a foundation of bullshyt.

 

[Ciggavelli]

I never brought up time, you did. I told you were your perception of time was flawed.



YOU HAVE NOT DEMONSTRATED THIS!

Why do you keep saying this shyt man?

Goddamn. Don't you get tired of repeating yourself?

You don't know if there was ever a point where "nothing" existed.

You simply don't.



No, it doesn't.

The existence of something has no bearing on whether or not a period of "nothingness" ever existed.

<sigh> yes, I am getting very tired of repeating myself.

If something exists then that means that something exists.

If the world is a container, then that means that if something exists, that means that something exists in that container

If the world is infinite, then that means that something exists in infinity

In either case, something exists.

If something exists then absolutely nothing can never exist.

I don't know why you can't grasp this simple concept

You're trying to throw time in here, when time doesn't exist. If time exists, we can go down that route too

 

[WaveGang]

<sigh> yes, I am getting very tired of repeating myself.

If something exists then that means that something exists.

If the world is a container, then that means that if something exists, that means that something exists in that container

If the world is infinite, then that means that something exists in infinity

In either case, something exists.

If something exists then absolutely nothing can never exist.

I don't know why you can't grasp this simple concept

You're trying to throw time in here, when time doesn't exist. If time exists, we can go down that route too

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[Ciggavelli]

Maybe a picture will help you?

if something exists in either case, ABSOLUTE NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE

 

[Ciggavelli]

recognized the name

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I ain't been on boxden in a while now. After I finished that Fraud project and Max lost the appeal (), I stayed over here