Does Elden Ring, Sekiro & Bloodborne Even Count As "New IPs"?

[BobbyWojak]

You get punished for playing Bloodborne like Dark Souls.

Bloodborne plays like a polished focused DS2

 

[BobbyWojak]

These games don’t appeal to me at all

Sekiro in particular looks


I’ll try Elden Ring tho

If you don't like fromsoft games imo sekiro is the one to play,

 

[High quality poster]

If you don't like fromsoft games imo sekiro is the one to play,

Its more the aesthetic I don’t like

With Sekiro… Ghost of Tsushima was just the more appealing samurai game

 

[Styles]

I actually do consider them one ip, even if it’s not considered so by the majority.

 

[kdslittlebro]

What difference does it make, seriously?

 

[winb83]

The gameplay is the same.

Just like final Fantasy games have all that “new” stuff but are still considered the same IP

If I was shown blind combat footage of Soulsborne games I couldn't tell them apart.

If I was shown battle footage from Final Fantasy VII, X, XII, XIII, and XV I might not associate them with the same series. Some of them are turn based some ATB and some real time.

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

If I was shown blind combat footage of Soulsborne games I couldn't tell them apart.

If I was shown battle footage from Final Fantasy VII, X, XII, XIII, and XV I might not associate them with the same series. Some of them are turn based some ATB and some real time.

Thats the point, this is a shallow observation, if you played through the game you would understand how different they are.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

If I was shown blind combat footage of Soulsborne games I couldn't tell them apart.

If I was shown battle footage from Final Fantasy VII, X, XII, XIII, and XV I might not associate them with the same series. Some of them are turn based some ATB and some real time.

I know and we still don’t consider each new FF game a “new ip”

I like From, but we can be honest and say they’ve been making the same game for like 10 years now

 

[winb83]

Thats the point, this is a shallow observation, if you played through the game you would understand how different they are.

I think the point of this thread is if you look at those games they all look like sequels to each other rather than different series.

Obviously they are different takes on a formula that a From Software fan would easily explain but they all look like they start from the same base game and don't stray too far from it.

It looks more like the difference between SMT and Persona battle systems. Persona is a different spin on SMT but it's a derivative.

 

[ItWasWritten]

Elden Ring look like Dark Souls 4

but i honestly dont care what they call they games they all fire and all first day cops

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

I think the point of this thread is if you look at those games they all look like sequels to each other rather than different series.

Obviously they are different takes on a formula that a From Software fan would easily explain but they all look like they start from the same base game and don't stray too far from it.

It looks more like the difference between SMT and Persona battle systems. Persona is a different spin on SMT but it's a derivative.

People who don’t play jrpgs will say the same about all those games

 

[winb83]

People who don’t play jrpgs will say the same about all those games

Is a spinoff really a new IP? It's closer to a sequel than something new. If someone said Persona and SMT looked like the same thing I'd have to agree with them even knowing that if you play they they go in different directions. They have far more in common than not.

I'd say the Soulsborne games seem that way. If you don't like Dark Souls would you be partial to liking Demon Souls, Bloodborne, or Elden Ring?

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

Is a spinoff really a new IP? It's closer to a sequel than something new. If someone said Persona and SMT looked like the same thing I'd have to agree with them even knowing that if you play they they go in different directions. They have far more in common than not.

I'd say the Soulsborne games seem that way. If you don't like Dark Souls would you be partial to liking Demon Souls, Bloodborne, or Elden Ring?

You probably wouldn’t like code vein, the surge, nioh, mortal shell and a bunch of other difficult action games either

They are not all the same IP

 

[BobbyWojak]

You probably wouldn’t like code vein, the surge, nioh, mortal shell and a bunch of other difficult action games either

They are not all the same IP

To be fair the word 'soulslike' exist for a reason, IP is a bad way to put it , they're not pallet swaps but they are games made with the same design philosophy and combat system. They're not just difficult action games every game you listed was created by people directly looking to build on the fromsoft formula.

So most of these games kinda are spin offs and sequels

 

[winb83]

You probably wouldn’t like code vein, the surge, nioh, mortal shell and a bunch of other difficult action games either

They are not all the same IP

Those From Software games are treated even by fans as if they're all in the same series hence the name Soulsborne. They just made up a name to tie them together because technically they aren't the same IP but they also aren't that far apart.