Does Charles Barkley realize he was small?

[Goatpoacher]

anyone that dapped this post never seen barkley play.

charles was small in height but wide as hell and heavy as hell. so in essence there was nothing small about chuck. draymond and chuck are not in the same stratoshpere PERIOD> the didnt play the same. dray is shooting 3's and making solid stand still passes. chuck would shoot a few 3's, drive hard and post people up to death. draymond is not on the block posting up 7 foot dudes in a league where bigs are real. this league has mostly fake power forwards with litte to no power.

While true, Chuck was a terrible defender. Sometimes he'd just pull a james harden and not even try on the defensive end. It's why he was always open on the opposite end during the 92 dream team's run :JJ:

 

[rapbeats]

While true, Chuck was a terrible defender. Sometimes he'd just pull a james harden and not even try on the defensive end. It's why he was always open on the opposite end during the 92 dream team's run :JJ:

chuck wasnt terrible. he was a GOOD defender. he was average and playing pf at that height he was never going to be much more than so so. dudes were reallyg ood back then.


nowadays draymond can get away with what he's doing since darn near every single team is full of tweeners playing PF. there's no POWER in the PF> if draymond ran into barkley on monday night, malone on tuesday, shawn kemp on weds, Derrick coleman on thurs.... you get my point? The league was full of bonafide BALLLERS at PF. and center?

ha haa. draymond would neverin his life try to play center. he would be calling for his own coach's head if he tried to put him at center vs the likes of shaq, the dream, drob, Smits, Zo, Pat ewing, etc. etc.

This is what no one talks about. more tweeners, the easier it is for a guy that is a defensive minded tweener to take advantage of those guys on the defensive end since they will never be able to over power you. and they are not quicker than you. so all they can do is pick n pop. thats easy to guard if you're semi quick, semi athletic, and a tweener yourself. whats hell to do for tweeners is have to guard REAL POWER FORWARDS that will take your little tweener butt down on the block and kill you. those guys no longer exist in the nba.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

nowadays draymond can get away with what he's doing since darn near every single team is full of tweeners playing PF. there's no POWER in the PF> if draymond ran into barkley on monday night, malone on tuesday, shawn kemp on weds, Derrick coleman on thurs.... you get my point? The league was full of bonafide BALLLERS at PF. and center?

Draymond has no problem dealing with power-based bigs. You're acting as if all those players didn't routinely put up numbers during their era. If he played in an era which turned a blind eye to more contact, he'd have more effectiveness on defense than he currently has. He has a 7"1 wingspan, elite hand activity, lateral quickness, post positioning/use of COG, shadowing of wings/guards, weakside help defense, isolation spots and great rim protection. His defensive abilities would translate over to any era.

ha haa. draymond would neverin his life try to play center. he would be calling for his own coach's head if he tried to put him at center vs the likes of shaq, the dream, drob, Smits, Zo, Pat ewing, etc. etc.

Man look nobody stopped those players at their peaks from getting theirs - it isn't as if Draymond isn't capable of holding his own against them.

This is what no one talks about. more tweeners, the easier it is for a guy that is a defensive minded tweener to take advantage of those guys on the defensive end since they will never be able to over power you. and they are not quicker than you. so all they can do is pick n pop. thats easy to guard if you're semi quick, semi athletic, and a tweener yourself. whats hell to do for tweeners is have to guard REAL POWER FORWARDS that will take your little tweener butt down on the block and kill you. those guys no longer exist in the nba.

You sound like somebody that doesn't watch Warriors games.

 

[JMurder]

chuck wasnt terrible. he was a GOOD defender. he was average and playing pf at that height he was never going to be much more than so so. dudes were reallyg ood back then.


nowadays draymond can get away with what he's doing since darn near every single team is full of tweeners playing PF. there's no POWER in the PF> if draymond ran into barkley on monday night, malone on tuesday, shawn kemp on weds, Derrick coleman on thurs.... you get my point? The league was full of bonafide BALLLERS at PF. and center?

ha haa. draymond would neverin his life try to play center. he would be calling for his own coach's head if he tried to put him at center vs the likes of shaq, the dream, drob, Smits, Zo, Pat ewing, etc. etc.

This is what no one talks about. more tweeners, the easier it is for a guy that is a defensive minded tweener to take advantage of those guys on the defensive end since they will never be able to over power you. and they are not quicker than you. so all they can do is pick n pop. thats easy to guard if you're semi quick, semi athletic, and a tweener yourself. whats hell to do for tweeners is have to guard REAL POWER FORWARDS that will take your little tweener butt down on the block and kill you. those guys no longer exist in the nba.

Draymond would probably lose defensively more often than not, but he would probably kill offensively. Bigs back then would give him the three point shot and then the coaches would probably have to adjust by either switching a SF on him or by being forced to play small. Remember, there's a reason the NBA is heading in this direction. International play found the flaws in American basketball and exploited them in the olympics...now we know 3 pointers aren't bad or only to be shot in certain situations

 

[Art Barr]

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Yo,...
This shyt unreal.....damn.


Art Barr

 

[Art Barr]

Young Barkley is basically a MUCH better Draymond.

Draymond ain't shyt to no fukk'n barkley.
Don't even come talking that bullshyt either as a comeback, fool.
I actually went to state and was cognitive to watch the bulls for real, for real.
With Two finals clinching tickets in the house, too.


Art Barr

Art Barr

 

[Art Barr]

There are lots of teams who would beat 90s bulls, like shaq and kobe lakers, and todays warriors. chuck hating cause they have more rings than him

Shaq and kobe lost up twenty five to the bulls, breh.

See more dudes in here talking and really don't know and never saw.


Art Barr

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

Because they proved him wrong. Jump shooting team eon the title and looks like they will do it again. The test is how they do against the new spurs

He hated the Warriors way before the Championship.

 

[Gangstar8]

Shaq and kobe lost up twenty five to the bulls, breh.

See more dudes in here talking and really don't know and never saw.


Art Barr

Breh kbe shaq beat them too, shaw beat jordan with magic in play offs too. And that wasnt even prime kobe shaq stop talkin out ur ass breh

 

[Art Barr]

"Honestly there isn't that much difference in their rebounding ability:" Gil Scott-Heroin comparing Rodmans and Thompsons rebounding ability

Dawg, tt is not even as good as the guy who shot his limo driver as a rebounder.

Breh kbe shaq beat them too, shaw beat jordan with magic in play offs too. And that wasnt even prime kobe shaq stop talkin out ur ass breh

You can't even get your timeline accurate.
Shaq was on the magic before the Lakers, breh.
What happened, when the bulls were full strength verse the magic.
I , see you don't remember that,....just to show you don't know the timeline and how this group bested adversity to past foes.
As far as the kobe/shaq Lakers.
nikka, the Lakers had more fire power and more weapons.
Plus, were up twenty five to this group with more weapons and still lost.
The bulls easily were mentally dominant against Shaq and Kobe.
Mj used to troll Kobe into making mistakes based on camaraderie, too.
Then, capitalize when Kobe would let competing go to his head and mike would capitalize mentally and take over.
Also, Shaw and Kobe version of Kobe was the best Kobe, period.
Kobe after Shaq got treated by the ghost zone and never mentally was capable of fortifyng his group.
Plus, the version of Kobe.
that would become the black hole gunner Kobe.
That kobe got owned by the pistons, with Shaw, too.
To the point gasol and artest beat the celt's in game seven and before late free-throw gimme's.
Kobe had seventeen points and needed late free throws and artest/pau to look respectible in game seven.
If not for injuries to the celt's in undertaker and their inability to utilize sheed Wallace effectively so he gelled with the group.
To enable them to actually have sheed ramped up with the celt's to win.
Kobe is not winning game six and pau got to get off finally because undertaker was not there.
So, spare me all your revisionist based history.
Where you can't even get the timelines and era's accurate.
Plus, it is obvious you don't know what you are talembout.
just off inaccuracies in your timeline to recount the events correctly.
Like I said mike and company already beat that incarnation of the Lakers and those Lakers were up twenty five and the bulls came back.
You really never saw mike and the bulls, breh.
So, just stop it,.....

Only team seeing the bulls all time were:

69-13 sixers
69-13 first Doberman PitBull d repeat bulls

Those are the only teams that would beat the 72-10 bulls in a series.

Real talk, Len bias not being on the Celts opened it up for all this.
If len bias is alive and gets to Play sg for the loaded Celts.
It is completely different.
That did not happen, so since it did not.
This 72-10 bulls team is the marker.


Art Barr

 

[Gangstar8]

Dawg, tt is not even as good as the guy who shot his limo driver as a rebounder.

You can't even get your timeline accurate.
Shaq was on the magic before the Lakers, breh
nikka, the Lakers had more fire power and more weapons.
Plus, were up twenty five to this group with more weapons and still lost.
The bulls easily were mentally dominant against Shaq and Kobe.
Mj used to troll Kobe into making mistakes based on camaraderie, too.
Then, capitalize when Kobe would let competing go to his head and mike would capitalize mentally and take over.
Also, Shaw and Kobe version of Kobe was the best Kobe, period.
Kobe after Shaw got treated by the ghost zone and never mentally was capable of fortifyng his group.
To the point gasol and artest beat the celt's in game seven and before late free-throw gimme's.
Kobe had seventeen points and needed late free throws and artest/pau to look respectible in game seven.
If not for injuries to the celt's in undertaker and their inability to utilize sheed Wallace effectively so he gelled with the group.
To enable them to actually have him ramped up with the celt's to win.
Kobe is not winning game six and pau got to get off finally because undertaker was not there.
So, spare me all your revisionist based history.
Where you can't even get the timelines and era's accurate.
Plus, it is obvious you don't know what you are talembout.
just off inaccuracies in your timeline to recount the events correctly.
Like I said mike and company already best that incarnation of the Lakers and those Lakers were up twenty five and the bulls came back.
You really never saw mike and the bulls, breh.
So, just stop it,.....

Only team seeing the bulls all time were:

69-13 sixers
69-13 first Doberman PitBull d repeat bulls

Those are the only teams that would bea the 72-10 bulls in a series.

Real talk, Len bias not being on the Celts opened it up for all this.
If len bias is alive history and gets to Pla sg for the loaded Celts.
It is completely different.

Art Barr

Breh i know shaq was on magic before lakers

Being down 25 and winning once does not mean shyt wtf you talking about?

That wasn't even kobe shaqs best teams when they played the bulls
stop talking out your ass

 

[Art Barr]

Breh i know shaq was on magic before lakers

Being down 25 and winning once does not mean shyt wtf you talking about?

That wasn't even kobe shaqs best teams when they played the bulls
stop talking out your ass

Like I said, the Lakers had more fire power and Shaq was still physically Shaq before the ship run wear and tear.
Yet, you think a ship run wear and tear and inferior unit skillwise could compete with the 72-10 bulls.
When the bulls were sharper mentally and this laker team never ramped up.
Especially being understaffed to this incarnation of the Lakers.
You, can't say Kobe and Shaq were as mentally tough as the bulls.
As they never won 70games and they got manhandled by the pistons.

So, spare me all the bullshyt you talembout.
The Lakers with Kobe and shaq never were on the same skill level as the 72-10 bulls as a unit and I had to post footage to show you the Lakers had more firepower who were actualized.
Before, the shaq/kobe Lakers were minimalized in firepower.
so socially Kobe could exist and become a consistent starter over Eddie Jones.
Of which, eddie only lost his spot because of social dysfunction with Shaq.
While, alternatively pip played with Rodman who previously slung him into the first row by his armpit and beat him into a migraine submission and publically still hates Rodman.
Yet, you trying to tell me the Lakers who could not socially manage eek and Eddie was going to beat the bulls and we already saw the most extreme loss the Lakers took to this bulls unit.
When on paper they had more firepower.

You, never saw the 72-10 bulls so stop fronting.
You don't have any of the timeline accurate and you know none of the detail to even have this discussion with me..if you knew the details of this you would have posted it.
Now, all you can do at best is supply a rant of a better staffed laker team with Kobe/shaq losing from not mentally being of skill to fukk with the bulls to execute and win.
Plus, no later Phil Jackson team ever showed any mastery of the mini games like the 72-10 group.
So, even if Phil was coaching on both sidelines.
The Lakers never showed the ability to ramp up to the 72-10 teams level.
If they did they would have never lost in the finals and would have bested or tied the 72-10 marker.


Like I, said....
You, don't know what you are talembout.
If you did your rant would have analysis of this game and would not have dismissed it.
That is why I know you don't know what you talembout as well.
As you continued to previously select teams or groups.
that the 72-10 team bested before they went 72-10.
Plus, you never cited the most relevant game to this discussion like I did.

Which is how I know you don'know wtf you talembout.



Art Barr

 

[Gangstar8]

Like I said, the Lakers had more fire power and Shaq was still physically Shaq before the ship run wear and tear.
Yet, you think a ship run wear and tear and inferior unit skillwise could compete with the 72-10 bulls.
When the bulls were sharper mentally and this laker team never ramped up.
Especially being understaffed to this incarnation of the Lakers.
You, can't say Kobe and Shaq were as mentally tough as the bulls.
As they never won 70games and they got manhandled by the pistons.

So, spare me all the bullshyt you talembout.
The Lakers with Kobe and shaq never were on the same skill level as the 72-10 bulls as a unit and I had to post footage to show you the Lakers had more firepower who were actualized.
Before, the shaq/kobe Lakers were minimalized in firepower.
so socially Kobe could exist and become a consistent starter over Eddie Jones.
Of which, eddie only lost his spot because of social dysfunction with Shaq.
While, alternatively pip played with Rodman who previously slung him into the first row by his armpit and beat him into a migraine submission and publically still hates Rodman.
Yet, you trying to tell me the Lakers who could not socially manage eek and Eddie was going to beat the bulls and we already saw the most extreme loss the Lakers took to this bulls unit.
When on paper they had more firepower.

You, never saw the 72-10 bulls so stop fronting.
You don't have any of the timeline accurate and you know none of the detail to even have this discussion with me..if you knew the details of this you would have posted it.
Now, all you can do at best is supply a rant of a better staffed laker team with Kobe/shaq losing from not mentally being of skill to fukk with the bulls to execute and win.
Plus, no later Phil Jackson team ever showed any mastery of the mini games like the 72-10 group.
So, even if Phil was coaching on both sidelines.
The Lakers never showed the ability to ramp up to the 72-10 teams level.
If they did they would have never lost in the finals and would have bested or tied the 72-10 marker.


Like I, said....
You, don't know what you are talembout.
If you did your rant would have analysis of this game and would not have dismissed it.
That is why I know you don't know what you talembout as well.
As you continued to previously select teams or groups.
that the 72-10 team bested before they went 72-10.
Plus, you never cited the most relevant game to this discussion like I did.

Which is how I know you don'know wtf you talembout.



Art Barr

This guys bragging about beating the lakers on 97 fukk is wrong with you
Breh that's 97, their first championship came on 2000, still a lot of growing up to do.
I would take 16-1 over 72-10 anyday

 

[Art Barr]

This guys bragging about beating the lakers on 97 fukk is wrong with you
Breh that's 97, their first championship came on 2000, still a lot of growing up to do.
I would take 16-1 over 72-10 anyday

So, you don't read and don't know what you talembout.
You just sat here and quoted the post where I talked about 97 being a better staffed group.
Plus, mentally the Lakers never ramped on the bulls level.
Which I also spoke on in the rant you quoted.
It is obvious you really don't understand and it is obvious from how you skim content.
that you not going to offer much content to back up your claim.
Like I said, your only out in this.
I, supplied and posted portions of the game footage.
to illustrate the only point you could make for a kobe/shaq lead Lakers being able to beat the bulls.
Of which the Lakers could not do with a higher skill player and scorer staffed unit.
Including that same unit being in the poor position and still losing to the bulls.
On top f the fact, in the finals.
The bulls beat every western conference team. they were dominated by in the regular season over the course of six titles.
Which includes the jazz, trailblazers, Lakers, suns and Sonics.
So, the bulls always showed mental superiority to ramp up and beat better staffed western conference comp in the finals as well.
Like is said you don't know any data on this as it occurred.
It is obvious from your deflection and inability to make a concise point.
Plus, you are unable of recounting the timelines as well.


Art Barr

 

[Gangstar8]

So, you don't read and don't know what you talembout.
You just sat here and quoted the post where I talked about 97 being a better staffed group.
Plus, mentally the Lakers never ramped on the bulls level.
Which I also spoke on in the rant you quoted.
It is obvious you really don't understand and it is obvious from how you skim content.
that you not going to offer much content to back up your claim.
Like I said, your only out in this.
I, supplied and posted portions of the game footage.
to illustrate the only point you could make for a kobe/shaq lead Lakers being able to beat the bulls.
Of which the Lakers could not do with a higher skill player and scorer staffed unit.
Including that same unit being in the poor position and still losing to the bulls.
On top f the fact, in the finals.
The bulls beat every western conference team. they were dominated by in the regular season over the course of six titles.
Which includes the jazz, trailblazers, Lakers, suns and Sonics.
So, the bulls always showed mental superiority to ramp up and beat better staffed western conference comp in the finals as well.
Like is said you don't know any data on this as it occurred.
It is obvious from your deflection and inability to make a concise point.
Plus, you are unable of recounting the timelines as well.


Art Barr

16-1