Does Charles Barkley realize he was small?

[Remote]

I'm convinced you have absolutely no idea of what you're talking about. This is the greatest, most advanced period of basketball that there's ever been. Get a clue.

Inflated stats? You wanna talk about today's player inflating their stats when past eras had less teams, less talent, less complex offensive defensive systems, less talented offensive and defensive players, worse shooters, worse ball-handlers, worse finishers in leagues where there the best stars were on the same teams and they'd dominate against garbage teams (absolutely no parity at all) that were basically scrimmage games?

How many of those players in previous eras would survive in the game today - where the game is more complex, a better/ widespread talent pool and the athletes are faster, stronger, bigger and more athletic than ever before? The players you see today have played the majority of their developed lives against top talent - you can't say the same for players in the 60s and 70s.

There's some wild shyt being said in this thread.

You again

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

You again

Seriously you ole back in the day ass nikkas don't know what the fukk you're talking about. If you don't think teams run real offensive schemes today - I don't think basketball is the game for you. There's a reason there's more planning, structure, analytical research and constant progression of countering current trends in the league today, than EVER before. The mere concept of most of the shyt that goes on in building a team and player progression/development today, didn't even exist 30, 40, 50 years ago.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

But according to @Raul teams don't even run real offensive schemes today.

 

[Remote]

Seriously you ole back in the day ass nikkas don't know what the fukk you're talking about. If you don't think teams run real offensive schemes today - I don't think basketball is the game for you. There's a reason there's more planning, structure, analytical research and constant progression of countering current trends in the league today, than EVER before. The mere concept of most of the shyt that goes on in building a team and player progression/development today, didn't even exist 30, 40, 50 years ago.

You have no idea what you're talking about.
You think everything is always progressively better in your era because it's what you are living.
You wouldn't know what actual basketball even looked like if it wasn't for a few glancing shots in a 30 for 30 documentary.

A league where 24 of the 30 teams shoot 20+ three pointers a game and you think this shyt is sophisticated ball.

 

[Remote]

But according to @Raul teams don't even run real offensive schemes today.

Did you just post the SPURS as your example of sophisticated ball?

The team coached by the guy who hates the fukking offense run by the entire nba?
THAT guy's team?



I'm not surprised you didn't post a Warriors video

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

You have no idea what you're talking about.
You think everything is always progressively better in your era because it's what you are living.
You wouldn't know what actual basketball even looked like if it wasn't for a few glancing shots in a 30 for 30 documentary.

A league where 24 of the 30 teams shoot 20+ three pointers a game and you think this shyt is sophisticated ball.

See this is the problem with yall - this is actual basketball. You're either too dumb or stubborn to acknowledge it. 90+% of the game is always going to be better - there's absolutely nothing your nostalgic reasoning can prove otherwise. Are you really going to sit there and act like the 60/70s product is better than the one today?

A league where only 8-10 teams existed with the best players on the same teams, basic 1v1 offenses, no plays of manipulation and no defense being played - and you think that shyt is sophisticated ball.

 

[ManBearPig]

Barkley was fat tho

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Did you just post the SPURS as your example of sophisticated ball?

The team coached by the guy who hates the fukking offense run by the entire nba?
THAT guy's team?



I'm not surprised you didn't post a Warriors video

Of course your dumbass would interpret what he said about the 3-pt shot in that manner. Get a clue.

 

[Remote]

Of course your dumbass would interpret what he said about the 3-pt shot in that manner. Get a clue.

You don't even present your own team as the pinnacle of fundamental beautiful basketball.
It's obvious you don't even believe what you're saying breh.

At this point you gotta be quoting me just to quote me.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

You don't even present your own team as the pinnacle of fundamental beautiful basketball.
It's obvious you don't even believe what you're saying breh.

I don't have a team.

There's plenty of teams that run great offensive systems - far greater than in eras that have come before them. The only one that doesn't know what they're talking about is you. You have the fukking nerve to act like teams don't even run real offensive schemes when the play today is far more intricate and complex than ever before. This is inarguable.

Noticed how you've not once provided evidence to back up the contrary.

 

[Remote]

I don't have a team.

There's plenty of teams that run great offensive systems - far greater than in eras that have come before them. The only one that doesn't know what they're talking about is you. You have the fukking nerve to act like teams don't even run real offensive schemes when the play today is far more intricate and complex than ever before. This is inarguable.

Noticed how you've not once provided evidence to back up the contrary.

It's self evident.
I thought the anti analytics guy would see that.
Guess not.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

It's self evident.
I thought the anti analytics guy would see that.
Guess not.

Who's the anti-analytics guy? You've obviously got me mixed up with somebody else. Any data used to push the game forward - I'm all for it.

How is it self evident? Explain.

 

[Remote]

Who's the anti-analytics guy? You've obviously got me mixed up with somebody else.

How is it self evident? Explain.

Watch basketball.
It's not up to me to open your eyes when all you're gonna do is dig in against all my posts anyway.
This is a waste of your time and mine.

The fact that you really are asking where to find evidence that a prior generation played a better version of basketball is evidence enough that you're lamely trolling, or truly blind.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Watch basketball.

I can guarantee you I watch more basketball than 99% of this board. Judging by your posts I can see you don't watch shyt at all.

It's not up to me to open your eyes when all you're gonna do is dig in against all my posts anyway.
This is a waste of your time and mine.

If you're reasonable and operate on sound logic there's gonna be no reason for me to dig in against your posts. The problem here is NOBODY that watches the game today would say 'teams don't even run real offensive schemes'. That couldn't be further from the truth. So explain why you don't think they run real offensive schemes? They don't run real schemes because they take 3-pt shots? What about all the player/ball movement that goes into manipulating a defense into getting the best possible shot? Like somehow the gameplans haven't developed more and more to counter trends in the league?

The fact that you really are asking where to find evidence that a prior generation played a better version of basketball is evidence enough that you're lamely trolling, or truly blind.

I'm asking you to provide the find evidence on this "better version of basketball". What made it better? You're working all on this vapid nostalgic premise yet not stating WHY it's better.

Are the athletes better in previous eras?
Are the players' handling skillsets better in previous eras?
Were the players better shooters in previous eras?
Were the players faster in previous eras?
Were the players better at driving to the rim in previous eras?
Were the offenses more complex in previous eras?
Were the defenses more complex in previous eras?
Were there a larger pool of talent in previous eras?
Were there more player development in previous eras?
Were there more advanced training/medicine in previous eras?
Is the ball movement more apparent in previous eras?
Is there more player movement in previous?

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Bububut teams don't run real offensive schemes in today's league.