Does Canibus get the biggest pass of all time for supposedely being dope and lyrical?

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Other than this song



i never really checked for him like that afterwards :yeshrug:
 
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The dude can spit, Im a fan of his rhymes but....in reality something is just off about him maybe he needs to be on medication or something
 

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I'll preface this point by saying that I am a Canibus fan. The more I consider the term stan, the more I see it as used by younger cats. I’m an older head.

Canibus has dropped some trash, and at times he’s embarrassed his fans. He's sounded out of place on a many tracks that don't fit his style, which he doesn't change up all too often. But to dismiss him as wack proves to me that I'd rather not be discussing rap with you in the first place.

He’s the first dude I know of to describe himself as a trans-dimensional badass. It's all surface level otherwise. Rappers are shooting at one another and selling keys while he’s telepathically battling demons. That was a novel idea to me, and I thought it was dope. He’s had references to and described shyt like meditation, the seven chakras, third eye, out of body experiences, remote viewing, and all the other ill parapsychology shyt someone like me is interested in and enjoys hearing about. Get this guy on some beats I can vibe to and it’s over.

I’m not gonna get at anybody for hating on him, but I love the dude’s music when it’s on point, and I could literally come up with thirty or more tracks of his that I personally consider on point. He obviously takes a lot of flack and receives his share of hate, but I’m happy the guy has released as much music as he has.

Now I’m going to go listen to rhymes about pterodactyls and shyt. Eat me.
 

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I'll preface this point by saying that I am a Canibus fan. The more I consider the term stan, the more I see it as used by younger cats. I’m an older head.

Canibus has dropped some trash, and at times he’s embarrassed his fans. He's sounded out of place on a many tracks that don't fit his style, which he doesn't change up all too often. But to dismiss him as wack proves to me that I'd rather not be discussing rap with you in the first place.

He’s the first dude I know of to describe himself as a trans-dimensional badass. It's all surface level otherwise. Rappers are shooting at one another and selling keys while he’s telepathically battling demons. That was a novel idea to me, and I thought it was dope. He’s had references to and described shyt like meditation, the seven chakras, third eye, out of body experiences, remote viewing, and all the other ill parapsychology shyt someone like me is interested in and enjoys hearing about. Get this guy on some beats I can vibe to and it’s over.

I’m not gonna get at anybody for hating on him, but I love the dude’s music when it’s on point, and I could literally come up with thirty or more tracks of his that I personally consider on point. He obviously takes a lot of flack and receives his share of hate, but I’m happy the guy has released as much music as he has.

Now I’m going to go listen to rhymes about pterodactyls and shyt. Eat me.

C/S Rip The Jacker = Hip Hop Classic
 

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Canibus gets hated on cause he dissed white Jesus, lol. If anybody gets a 'pass' in Hip Hop it's slim shady bytch ass. Single handedly introduced blatant fakkitry to the genre and nikkas have the nerve to call him the goat.

U uncle Tom NEGROES make me sick.

I can't speak for anyone else...

But Canibus was already a joke and a choke artist way before the Eminem shyt. The Eminem shyt was just the first time the nikka exposed himself to be a weirdo.
 
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I'm not a stan I haven't messed with Canibus music since 2005. I do know his career though and know someone who doesn't when I see one, you. Of course you don't care what Eminem, Nas, Rakim, Pun, G Rap, Common, Sean Price, Wu Members, Busta Rhymes, Lupe, Proof, Chuck D, DMX, Ras Kass, Pharoahe Monch etc. said because it doesn't agree with your opinion. I would rather take the word of those who are considered greats and legends of the sport over yours. Canibus catalog is greater than Pun's by like 20 times in size you really think he has more greater verses than Canibus? I don't take you seriously.

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What do you mean by "canibus getting the biggest pass"? You act like Canibus is on everybody's top 10 list!!

You get laughed at the moment you say Canibus name for god sake. There was a point in his career where I thought he was gonna kill himself. Shyt....he had to signe up for the US Army just to get away from the negativity. How many well-known rappers done that?

His career wasn't bad imo. Rip the Jacker is personal classic. 2000 b.c, mic club and C of Tranquility were very good album.
 

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rappity rap saying nothing over wack beats. Kind of describes a lot of underground shyt in the late 90s to mid 2000s imo, and I used to rep it all. Never really got into Canibus outside of loving Poet Laurette
 

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Canibus is a great lyricist and I think people taking that away from him are really hating on him because he does not rap about the subject matter you guys are into. I actually think he has solid albums, but in crunch time? He cracks under pressure. Happened with Can-I-Bus, CTHS, and of course the recent battle. I think Nas described Canibus the best, he called him the MC's Mc...people who listen to him try to break down how he structures his rhymes...and I really think he is one of the best who does that.

He has a whole lot of albums, most are good. Two big disappointments when the time mattered most.

Can-I-Bus - OK album, but a huge disappointment
2000 B.C. (Before Can-I-Bus) - Great
C True Hollywood Stories - :wtf:
Mic Club: The Curriculum - Great
Rip the Jacker - Almost classic
Mind Control - Meh (throwaway tracks to fulfill a contract)
Hip-Hop for Sale - Good
For Whom the Beat Tolls - Good
Melatonin Magik - OK
C of Tranquility - OK
Lyrical Law - OK

Seems like a solid career to me in terms of what he put out
 

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why couldnt he just pick 10 boom bap beats in 95 and make a dope album? we would at least remember him for something :noah: :mindblown:





with that said i've never heard rip the jacker and people say that's pretty great
 

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:what: @ anybody thinking Canibus was not a top lyricist of our time. This is a business, and one wrong move in your career could do irreparable damage. Sometimes artists can find 2nd life, sometimes not. Many think the Firm album nearly derailed Nas' career. AZ's career couldve been on point with Nas had he not stumbled so bad after the Firm flop. PoaM was a great album but label issues and delays (and "Hey AZ" not charting high and missing from album) put AZ's career or so far off course that he was never able to right the ship.

Well, Canibus' first big mistake was his most crucial one. Poor direction on his first album. As :myman: put it. Never has so one had so many eyes on them and choke in the biggest moment. :gladbron:

Wasnt his fault he choked, just bad direction. For this reason he is not considered with the All Time Greats, but off his strong resume of cameos alone, he should be.
 

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Nas said that Canibus and Big L were the only artist he ever feared. Nas didn't have the guts to rap along side him on the Firm track desperados.

Canibus was Pun's favorite emcee and he tried MANY times to work with him according to Fat Joe but Canibus kept playing him out.

Eminem has said he was influenced by Canib us and even went to a Canibus video shoot to meet him and Canibus dismissed him.

Ras has said in the pass that Canibus is a rapper he would scared to battle.

G Rap and Canibus have done several songs together and there was talk of a them doing an entire album at one point.

My point is that Canibus in his prime was equal or greater to the artist you named and that's judging by their actions.

The first album wasn't garbage by any means. It has a stigma that the beats aren't good but to call it garbage is a stretch. Second Round K.O. and Buckingham Palace are both classics and Free from 106 and Park is featured on it for whatever it's worth.

His next album has a cult following and continues to span battle rappers. The battle scene wouldn't be what it is if it was for that album. It is ground breaking because he did 100 bars which began that concept, it featured Rakim and the Horseman for the first time.

C True Hollywood story was a good album but not a good Canibus album and not on the hills of 2000 bc. People don't say it was bad on purpose people say it was a satire of either Eminem's prior album, Hip Hop in general or both. There are some good joints on that album.

Micclub is ground breaking, there were 1,000 bars on it, G Rap was featured, he took Hip Hop in a academic/scientific level, the production was decent and he answered Eminem on Dr. C Phd which Chuck D said was one of the best tracks released that year. That is an album WU members said they listen to before the go out on tour.

His next album Rip The Jacker is considered a classic by many. Poet Laurette 2 has to be one of the greatest songs of all time and Stoupe's production is almost flawless. It was also the end of the trilogy which started with C True Hollywood Stories (Germaine Williams), Micclub (Canibus), Rip The Jacker (Rip The Jacker).

Since then he's released other albums and is about to drop 10,000 bars that can be mixed with his previous albums to make new songs. Everything rhymes and when mixed so you literally can makes an infinite amount of songs but mixing the vocals and whatever interval you choose. He has inspired alot of the current and past rappers of the day who routinely give him props for his technical skills as an emcee. He teaches others how to rhyme if you want to get to the heart of the issue. You may not like what he rhymes about but you would have to be a hater to say he can't rhyme or hasn't advanced lyricism. Give this man his props already he's earned it!

interesting observations...because I feel that AZ was a fearless MC and I always thought was a better lyricist bar for bar than Nas, its just that Nas was more versatile. AZ more than held his own with Nas at anytime and was not afraid to step up on Desperados. Not many at that time would do that. Nature was :myman: too but bad career direction.

the rest of what you mention kinda sums up why Canibus didnt have a truly great career....he was dic-ridin the legends but he was being an a$$hole towards the up and coming MCees. Canibus has a complexity that lies somewhere between supreme arrogance and sly humility.
 

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Nas said that Canibus and Big L were the only artist he ever feared. Nas didn't have the guts to rap along side him on the Firm track desperados.

Canibus was Pun's favorite emcee and he tried MANY times to work with him according to Fat Joe but Canibus kept playing him out.

Eminem has said he was influenced by Canib us and even went to a Canibus video shoot to meet him and Canibus dismissed him.

Ras has said in the pass that Canibus is a rapper he would scared to battle.

G Rap and Canibus have done several songs together and there was talk of a them doing an entire album at one point.

My point is that Canibus in his prime was equal or greater to the artist you named and that's judging by their actions.

The first album wasn't garbage by any means. It has a stigma that the beats aren't good but to call it garbage is a stretch. Second Round K.O. and Buckingham Palace are both classics and Free from 106 and Park is featured on it for whatever it's worth.

His next album has a cult following and continues to span battle rappers. The battle scene wouldn't be what it is if it was for that album. It is ground breaking because he did 100 bars which began that concept, it featured Rakim and the Horseman for the first time.

C True Hollywood story was a good album but not a good Canibus album and not on the hills of 2000 bc. People don't say it was bad on purpose people say it was a satire of either Eminem's prior album, Hip Hop in general or both. There are some good joints on that album.

Micclub is ground breaking, there were 1,000 bars on it, G Rap was featured, he took Hip Hop in a academic/scientific level, the production was decent and he answered Eminem on Dr. C Phd which Chuck D said was one of the best tracks released that year. That is an album WU members said they listen to before the go out on tour.

His next album Rip The Jacker is considered a classic by many. Poet Laurette 2 has to be one of the greatest songs of all time and Stoupe's production is almost flawless. It was also the end of the trilogy which started with C True Hollywood Stories (Germaine Williams), Micclub (Canibus), Rip The Jacker (Rip The Jacker).

Since then he's released other albums and is about to drop 10,000 bars that can be mixed with his previous albums to make new songs. Everything rhymes and when mixed so you literally can makes an infinite amount of songs but mixing the vocals and whatever interval you choose. He has inspired alot of the current and past rappers of the day who routinely give him props for his technical skills as an emcee. He teaches others how to rhyme if you want to get to the heart of the issue. You may not like what he rhymes about but you would have to be a hater to say he can't rhyme or hasn't advanced lyricism. Give this man his props already he's earned it!
Actually Canibus was supposed to be on Super Lyrical instead of Black Thought, but LOUD or SOMEONE had a problem with it. That's why he was just on the hook. I read this years ago so I am not sure how true it is.
 
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