Does Canibus get the biggest pass of all time for supposedely being dope and lyrical?

[wtfyomom]

Like lets look at the facts:

He spit some dope shiiit on freestyles, guest appearances, and 2nd round KO over the course of a year. Fist off, what he spit was dope. it was NOT the best display of lyricism Ive ever seen by a LONG SHOT. Like it wasnt Kool G, Pun, Em, Ras, Nas or someone like that in their prime.

Then he drops a GARBAGE album. Pass number one.

Then he drops a pretty good album. nothing groundbreaking by any stretch just dope which was ten times better than the trash first album.

Then he drops c true holloywood stories, worse than his first album. Pass number two "he did it on purpose"

Then he drops Mic Club, another dope but not groundbreaking album.

Since than hes been trash.

He spits garbage plus pulls out a notepad filled with more garbage vs Diz. Pass number 3

But when anyone comments on him its always "I still consider him one of the best ever at lyrics, blah blah blah" Like where is this impeccable lyrical resume?

 

[kp404]

Well to me, being a lyricist and dropping a great album are two separate things...Just because someone can write great lyrics doesn't mean they can package their thoughts into an entertaining album....

K-Rino in Texas gets alot of flack for being a great lyricist but dropping mediocre albums due to beats, boring songs, etc...but I still consider him to be one of the best battle rappers to ever do it...

Canibus does not get a pass for dropping horrific albums but he will always be recognized as an ill lyricist...nikka just can't make an album..point blank period...


Barkley, Kemp, Stockton, Malone, Dan marino were all legendary players but could never get the ultimate prize...a ring...same shyt

IMO

 

[JayBaldacci]

canibus has a big vocab, but he's not a great lyricist to me.

 

[JayBaldacci]

Well to me, being a lyricist and dropping a great album are two separate things...Just because someone can write great lyrics doesn't mean they can package their thoughts into an entertaining album....

K-Rino in Texas gets alot of flack for being a great lyricist but dropping mediocre albums due to beats, boring songs, etc...but I still consider him to be one of the best battle rappers to ever do it...

Canibus does not get a pass for dropping horrific albums but he will always be recognized as an ill lyricist...nikka just can't make an album..point blank period...


Barkley, Kemp, Stockton, Malone, Dan marino were all legendary players but could never get the ultimate prize...a ring...same shyt

IMO

i wouldn't compare being dope technically but not being able to make songs to being a basket ball player witn n rings. more like somebody who can run fast and dribble nice but doesn't know the essentials of team basketball.

 

[OnlyInCalifornia]

Who gives him a pass?

Any shot he had at a pass was deaded that night he came out in a sling with the note pad.

 

[Snapple]

I say if u have respectable albums on your resume you can be regarded as praiseworthy. Fugees 1st album is trash yet they are the most talked about group inh hip hop history because they have that 1 dope album under their belt. Canibus dropped Mic Club and that alone makes him praiseworthy. C Of Tranquility, Melatonin magic and For Whom The Beat Tolls are all dope albums. Bus has dope albums on his resume so he is acknowledgeworthy.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

I always laugh when I hear people describe Canibus like he's some kind of supreme lyricist. Like saying "I'm dope and you're wack" over and over again while including references to nanotechnology and pterodactyls is prolific poetry.

 

[serial]

2000 BC was dope to me. But bis made the biggest mistake rolling with Wyclef I think he would have been a good fit for Def squad or Wutang at the time.

Rolling with wyclef was career suicide I cant understand that move until this day.

 

[LilJuicyTaco]

Like lets look at the facts:

He spit some dope shiiit on freestyles, guest appearances, and 2nd round KO over the course of a year. Fist off, what he spit was dope. it was NOT the best display of lyricism Ive ever seen by a LONG SHOT. Like it wasnt Kool G, Pun, Em, Ras, Nas or someone like that in their prime.

Then he drops a GARBAGE album. Pass number one.

Then he drops a pretty good album. nothing groundbreaking by any stretch just dope which was ten times better than the trash first album.

Then he drops c true holloywood stories, worse than his first album. Pass number two "he did it on purpose"

Then he drops Mic Club, another dope but not groundbreaking album.

Since than hes been trash.

He spits garbage plus pulls out a notepad filled with more garbage vs Diz. Pass number 3

But when anyone comments on him its always "I still consider him one of the best ever at lyrics, blah blah blah" Like where is this impeccable lyrical resume?

Nas said that Canibus and Big L were the only artist he ever feared. Nas didn't have the guts to rap along side him on the Firm track desperados.

Canibus was Pun's favorite emcee and he tried MANY times to work with him according to Fat Joe but Canibus kept playing him out.

Eminem has said he was influenced by Canib us and even went to a Canibus video shoot to meet him and Canibus dismissed him.

Ras has said in the pass that Canibus is a rapper he would scared to battle.

G Rap and Canibus have done several songs together and there was talk of a them doing an entire album at one point.

My point is that Canibus in his prime was equal or greater to the artist you named and that's judging by their actions.

The first album wasn't garbage by any means. It has a stigma that the beats aren't good but to call it garbage is a stretch. Second Round K.O. and Buckingham Palace are both classics and Free from 106 and Park is featured on it for whatever it's worth.

His next album has a cult following and continues to span battle rappers. The battle scene wouldn't be what it is if it was for that album. It is ground breaking because he did 100 bars which began that concept, it featured Rakim and the Horseman for the first time.

C True Hollywood story was a good album but not a good Canibus album and not on the hills of 2000 bc. People don't say it was bad on purpose people say it was a satire of either Eminem's prior album, Hip Hop in general or both. There are some good joints on that album.

Micclub is ground breaking, there were 1,000 bars on it, G Rap was featured, he took Hip Hop in a academic/scientific level, the production was decent and he answered Eminem on Dr. C Phd which Chuck D said was one of the best tracks released that year. That is an album WU members said they listen to before the go out on tour.

His next album Rip The Jacker is considered a classic by many. Poet Laurette 2 has to be one of the greatest songs of all time and Stoupe's production is almost flawless. It was also the end of the trilogy which started with C True Hollywood Stories (Germaine Williams), Micclub (Canibus), Rip The Jacker (Rip The Jacker).

Since then he's released other albums and is about to drop 10,000 bars that can be mixed with his previous albums to make new songs. Everything rhymes and when mixed so you literally can makes an infinite amount of songs but mixing the vocals and whatever interval you choose. He has inspired alot of the current and past rappers of the day who routinely give him props for his technical skills as an emcee. He teaches others how to rhyme if you want to get to the heart of the issue. You may not like what he rhymes about but you would have to be a hater to say he can't rhyme or hasn't advanced lyricism. Give this man his props already he's earned it!

 

[LilJuicyTaco]

2000 BC was dope to me. But bis made the biggest mistake rolling with Wyclef I think he would have been a good fit for Def squad or Wutang at the time.

Rolling with wyclef was career suicide I cant understand that move until this day.

He was later added to Def Squad but most people don't seem to know that.

 

[Trapped]

He doesn't get a pass, because he WAS a great lyricist. I bet 99 % of guys trash talking about the notepad and sayin' he raps about dinosaurs never heard more than 10 tracks from him.

And by the way - POET LAUREATE PART II. Close thread.

 

[Mike Statik]

2000 BC was dope....his verses on Boys II Men and Beasts from The Easts were insane... and he murdered Desperados... other than that hes a joke

 

[DANJ!]

The Canibus of 1997 all the way up to that terrible album was dope. Everything after that is a nikka spitting battle rhyme after battle rhyme filled with science references, so geeks think he's one of the greatest.

And even after that terrible album... when left to his own devices to make good music without Wyclef, he still put out weak shyt, so we can't even say it was really Clef's fault anymore. And in hindisght, I tend to think there's a small chance Wyclef gave him some better shyt and he took the weak shyt instead, cause it seems like he has a natural magnetism to lacking beats and corny song concepts. And he got wack lyrically too, because he went from a nikka who just said lots of ill shyt that people still understood, to talkin' about the perimeter and diameter of dikk sizes and shyt.

He's the epitome of a coulda-been that never did what was expected. I don't think any other rapper in history had that many eyes on him and choked like he did when it was time to drop music.

 

[BlackZilla]

It really sad when Canibus gets flak for using scientific and historical metaphors in his rhymes yet other rappers that talk about gettin' booty/money/cars and using simplistic rhymes are considered dope.

 

[BlackZilla]

He's the epitome of a coulda-been that never did what was expected. I don't think any other rapper in history had that many eyes on him and choked like he did when it was time to drop music.

Yep, this is Canibus in a nutshell.