Does Atheism Lead to Nihilism?

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You need to read beyond the title… because atheism mostly definitely leads to Existential Nihilism.
the ideology you have has nothing to do with athiesm in my opinion; i agree with nihilism to some degree by the way - but I am agnostic

can it lead to atheism? for those who are hopeless, degenerate and dont stand on their own two - yes.

for those who have their own code, beliefs and integrity though, they will find or create their own purpose even though life and the universe as a whole itself doesnt seem to have one
 

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The genocidal drumbeat of religious fanatics is what has created the drumbeat of nihilistic vision

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Existential Nihilism means there isn't objective value or purpose to life. A purpose requires design or creation, which by definition doesn't happen in an atheistic universe.
I literally just explained why what you typed makes no sense. :dead: This just goes back to what I said earlier, this opinion is really only had by the unread.
 

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It doesn't, you can search my post history with "nihilism", I already broke it down. That opinion, the connection between the two, is really only had by people that don't understand either position. Simply put, atheism is the negation of a proposition, the proposition being "God is real", atheism makes the declarative "no", negating the prop. Nihilism, as it pertains to the general understanding, or what the average person should mean in order to maintain consistency, is simply life without meaning.

But what is very important, is that nihilism is the rejection of meaning being derived from something, that meaning being mind independent. So when people ask "what is the meaning of life", the Christian appeals to God, the atheist can say there is meaning, the nihilist says there is no objective meaning.




TLDR: So, on the question "is there meaning to life", the atheist, nihilist, and Christian all have different answers. I would disregard anyone saying otherwise.
well said
 

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the ideology you have has nothing to do with athiesm in my opinion; i agree with nihilism to some degree by the way - but I am agnostic

can it lead to atheism? for those who are hopeless, degenerate and dont stand on their own two - yes.

for those who have their own code and integrity though, they will find or create their own purpose even though life and the universe as a whole itself doesnt seem to have one
Do you know what Existential Nihilism is ?
 

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@Anton

Do me a favor, define "atheism", "nihilism", and "theism". With those definitions, the logical leap you are making should be clear.
 

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I literally just explained why what you typed makes no sense. :dead: This just goes back to what I said earlier, this opinion is really only had by the unread.
A purpose is only valid if it is objective imo.
 

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I don't think one leads to the other. I could be wrong, but I'll try to explain it using Sports as an example.

Atheism = I don't think my team will ever win a championship. It's devoid of talent and the front office could care less. It is what it is

Existential Nihilism = This team ain't shyt and will never be shyt. Why am I even rooting for these bums? It's pointless
You said the same shiit in both sentences. One is just more pleasantly worded.
 

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A purpose is only valid if it is objective.

I honestly don't know what this means because I'm not sure of how you are using the words in that sentence, which is very important for understanding that, "valid" has important meaning logically, "objective" depends on the context, and "purpose" is heavily contextual as well consider it can be objective and subjective. But I would like for you to define the three positions, I'm simply asking for your understanding of each word, it's not some definition quiz.
 

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@Anton

Do me a favor, define "atheism", "nihilism", and "theism". With those definitions, the logical leap you are making should be clear.

atheism - there is no god aka life doesn't have an objective purpose.

Existential Nihilism - there isn't objective value or purpose to life.

theism - the belief in the existence of a supreme being.

atheism basically necessitates existential nihilism because there can't be objective purpose.
 
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