Do you think Chiwetel Ejiofor got robbed from an Oscar?
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Chiwie just had some stiff competition this year....kid of the same thing that happened to Val Kilmer in Tombstone
Yes the same character type.....southern man with plenty of issues trying to change things in the south. Either a cop or detective, lawyer or fugitive
A Time to Kill- lawyer in the south
Lone Star- cop in texas
Newtown Boys- Texas gangster
Killer Joe- Detective in the south( Texas)
Mud- fugitive in the south
True Detective- Detective in the South
Dallas Buyer Club- Dallas Cowboy
Frailty- Sheriff in Texas
Bernie- District Attorney in Texas
Trust me...it's the same character type.
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They could've picked the names out of a fukking hat and I wouldn't even be mad at that.
The reason you aren't getting serious responses is because you made a ridiculous statement ("he plays the same character type!") then cherry-picked/simplified certain things to back that up. You named 9 characters out of his career. He's been in 39+ movies.
at "Frailty" being "a sheriff in Texas". Yeah, if you ignore 99% of the movie prior to that. at "Killer Joe" and "True Detective" both being "a detective in the south". This is what I'm talking about. Yeah, Cooper and Rust are basically the same character.
Fred.
The reason you aren't getting serious responses is because you made a ridiculous statement ("he plays the same character type!") then cherry-picked/simplified certain things to back that up. You named 9 characters out of his career. He's been in 39+ movies.
Yeah, Cooper and Rust are basically the same character.
Fred.
I guess you want me to count his other movies too( romantic comedies) .
I love Frailty, it was a kick-ass flick but he did play a sheriff. Did u see the movie? Cherry-picking is something smaller than this but you seem not to get that this is the reason he is able to get the films today. It's a trend my friend. You would say the same for an actor who plays a gangster 10 to 15 of his films but out of 50 films he made, he is recognizable in those films for it.
i saw tombstone last week. val kilmer was a good doc holiday but that movie was a cartoon. wyatt earp is a 10x better movie imo. its a tossup between dennis quaid and val kilmer as doc holiday tho. i might lean more towards dennis quaid cause wyatt earp was better.
as for OP's question, chiwetel was great in that movie but he wasnt touching matthew. maybe in a weaker year.
you mean thats the nature of who pays more to win
Wasn't even the best actor in the film
Fassbender was very good too.
Meh it's campaigning just like politics but the company that put out 12 Years a Slave had more money than the company that put out Dallas Buyers Club so at that point, it comes down to the speeches you make, the hands you shake and the people who see your movie
I believe that Harvey Weinstein's money has influenced Oscar races in the past but its not through paying people off as much as its paying for ads, paying for spotlight which is what works in the eyes of voters..now he wasn't involved in this one but its just an example of how it works. The most visible star with the "best" narrative normally takes the prize, just like politics. I don't think he has as much pull as you think but I do believe that him being a fixture of pop culture every Sunday night helps and his general personality helps too. When it comes to awards season, its all about visibility and who's out there the most and he was out there the most. And even IF we're going with the theory that he has a lot of pull, he doesn't have more pull than Brad Pitt, who was the main producer behind 12 Years a Slave and his production company has more cache value than Truth Entertainment and Voltage Pictures (the studio who put out Dallas Buyers Club)
Dennis Quaid was in no way shape of form touching Val Kilmer in that Doc Holiday roll
and that Kevin Coster Wyatt Earp movie was trash
LOL, he is from the south. He has a heavy accent. Do you want to see him playing a Brit?