Claim superior intelligence and make Grade 3 grammar mistakes brehs
Do you so called Jews who support Israel realize it goes against the Torah
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Claim superior intelligence and make Grade 3 grammar mistakes brehs
Everythingg
King-Over-Kingz
Where does the bible say that the "jews" are to be in exile until the messiah leads them into Zion?
Mention the Torah then bring up the talmud brehs...
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it's called a typo? But I see you can only argue pity things because you lack any real infomation
you'e a moron, I said TALMUD ALSO, ALSO ALSO, that is an addition to what I what was stated in the thread title
Babylonian Talmud tractate Kesubos 111A
I mentioned both because some jews follow the tamuld some don't, but both the torah and the talmud forbid
I got this from jewish rabbis I didn't make this up
make stupid ass arguments that can be solved in secounds with google brehs
Everythingg
King-Over-Kingz
Then my question should have been easy to answer.
"Where does the bible say that the "jews" are to be in exile until the messiah leads them into Zion?"
And now you've added even MORE falsehoods. Where does the Torah forbid whatever you're alleging it forbids? I dont care for your nameless "jewish rabbi" friend(s). I was seeing if you had any documentation.
You are a fukking moron
The Torah is in the Bible, the five books of moses
Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy
go research the subject before you talk to me and you will find the answers yourself
your too uneducated to debate with me
Everythingg
King-Over-Kingz
I know what the Torah is and I've read those books EACH more than 5 times.
The thing is you have nothing. Which is why your insults have started instead of you bringing where the Torah (or even bible for that matter) states what you allege it does
Im not one to trip about grammar (or lack thereof) but if you're going to call someone "uneducated" at least demonstrate that you know the difference between YOUR and YOU'RE in that same sentence.
I know what the Torah is and I've read those books EACH more than 5 times.
The thing is you have nothing. Which is why your insults have started instead of you bringing where the Torah (or even bible for that matter) states what you allege it does
Im not one to trip about grammar (or lack thereof) but if you're going to call someone "uneducated" at least demonstrate that you know the difference between YOUR and YOU'RE in that same sentence.
Deuteronomy 4:25-27 11:17, 28:36, 28:62, 29:27
we can do this all day, you haven't read shyt, please go do I can post more if you like
Everythingg
King-Over-Kingz
Copy and paste breh. Post the words here so all can see.
And yep. We can do this all day if you would like. But dont just make statements.Copy and paste the verses that say what you think they do.
I'm on my phone I new those off the head, you can easily google the verses and they will come up
Genesis 15:8-17 is interpreted as a reference to the Four Exiles: Egypt, Babylon/Persia, Greece, Rome. So is Daniel 2:36-44 and 7:1-8.
Leviticus 26:33, Deuteronomy 4:25-27, 11:17, 28:36, 28:62, 29:27 all speak of the exile.
So do Psalms 106:27. Ezekiel 20:23, 22:15.
Jeremiah 29:7 says that Jews must be loyal citizens of their countries during exile.
Song of Songs 2:7 commands us not to arouse the end of exile before its time.
just read the old testament, the old testament in the bible is the Torah
its clear as day man
Leviticus 26:33, Deuteronomy 4:25-27, 11:17, 28:36, 28:62, 29:27 all speak of the exile.
So do Psalms 106:27. Ezekiel 20:23, 22:15.
Jeremiah 29:7 says that Jews must be loyal citizens of their countries during exile.
Song of Songs 2:7 commands us not to arouse the end of exile before its time.
just read the old testament, the old testament in the bible is the Torah
its clear as day man
Everythingg
King-Over-Kingz
Oh ok. Since you're on your phone:
Deuteronomy 4
25 After you have had children and grandchildren and have lived in the land a long time—if you then become corrupt and make any kind of idol, doing evil in the eyes of the Lord your God and arousing his anger, 26 I call the heavens and the earth as witnesses against you this day that you will quickly perish from the land that you are crossing the Jordan to possess. You will not live there long but will certainly be destroyed. 27 The Lord will scatter you among the peoples, and only a few of you will survive among the nations to which the Lord will drive you.
Deut 11:17
Then the LORD's anger will burn against you, and he will shut up the heavens so that it will not rain and the ground will yield no produce, and you will soon perish from the good land the LORD is giving you.
Deut 28:36/62
The Lord will drive you and the king you set over you to a nation unknown to you or your ancestors. There you will worship other gods, gods of wood and stone.
62 And ye shall be left few in number, whereas ye were as the stars of heaven for multitude, because thou wouldest not obey the voice of the Lord thy God.
Deut 29:27
And the anger of the Lord was kindled against this land, to bring upon it all the curses that are written in this book;
So how do any of these verses show that God is against the jewish state? They DONT. At all. It shows that God had something for them when they obeyed (blessings) and when they disobeyed (curses). Thats why you didnt bring this up:
Deuteronomy 30:
So it shall be when all of these things have come upon you, the blessing and the curse which I have set before you, and you [a]call them to mind in all nations where the Lord your God has banished you, 2 and you return to the Lord your God and obey Him with all your heart and soul according to all that I command you today, you and your sons, 3 then the Lord your God will restore [c]you from captivity, and have compassion on you, and will gather you again from all the peoples where the Lord your God has scattered you.
Deuteronomy 4
25 After you have had children and grandchildren and have lived in the land a long time—if you then become corrupt and make any kind of idol, doing evil in the eyes of the Lord your God and arousing his anger, 26 I call the heavens and the earth as witnesses against you this day that you will quickly perish from the land that you are crossing the Jordan to possess. You will not live there long but will certainly be destroyed. 27 The Lord will scatter you among the peoples, and only a few of you will survive among the nations to which the Lord will drive you.
Deut 11:17
Then the LORD's anger will burn against you, and he will shut up the heavens so that it will not rain and the ground will yield no produce, and you will soon perish from the good land the LORD is giving you.
Deut 28:36/62
The Lord will drive you and the king you set over you to a nation unknown to you or your ancestors. There you will worship other gods, gods of wood and stone.
62 And ye shall be left few in number, whereas ye were as the stars of heaven for multitude, because thou wouldest not obey the voice of the Lord thy God.
Deut 29:27
And the anger of the Lord was kindled against this land, to bring upon it all the curses that are written in this book;
So how do any of these verses show that God is against the jewish state? They DONT. At all. It shows that God had something for them when they obeyed (blessings) and when they disobeyed (curses). Thats why you didnt bring this up:
Deuteronomy 30:
So it shall be when all of these things have come upon you, the blessing and the curse which I have set before you, and you [a]call them to mind in all nations where the Lord your God has banished you, 2 and you return to the Lord your God and obey Him with all your heart and soul according to all that I command you today, you and your sons, 3 then the Lord your God will restore [c]you from captivity, and have compassion on you, and will gather you again from all the peoples where the Lord your God has scattered you.
Everythingg
King-Over-Kingz
Nobody's suggesting that the Hebrews werent exiles. What you suggested is that God is AGAINST the state of Israel existing according to the bible/torah. You havent exemplified that.
Showing me verses dealing with their exile, isnt showing me that God is against them being in their land again.
He's not against the jewish state, the messiah's job to gather all the jews
they were cased out of israel for disbobeying god, the entire point of the messiah to's bring the jews back
to the holy land from all the scattered
also read the entire chapter, I will be back more
the verse in songs is explicit instructions not to take back the land by force