Do you ever think about how powerful movies are?

[JQ Legend]

you said in the other thread "all those bible quotes you posted are just gonna make people aggravated"

its like you have a robot that has stock mind control, you introduce new mind control to it and say: this is also mind control but I am letting you know that now you have the choice on what mind control you eat from

what If I told you the holy people did all the domestication for you, even increased the flavor of the ingredients, built a shadow empire out of the sea, and sit back in hiding while you contemplate which mind control you'll eat from?

I don’t mind Bible quotes, I actually think it’s some real ass shyt in the Bible.

Not a fan of the KJV but the original Bible is something I would Love to read. And I’d go as far as to say there’s a reason they don’t want the general public reading the actual original Bible, because it would help break a lot of the mind control.

It’s just that illusion thread was a space for Spiritual people to build and it got hijacked and turned into a religious discussion.

I’m not saying I’m all wise and all knowing, I’m pretty sure I still got mind control I’m under. I at least see what’s going on tho to some extent. I realize I been conditioned to think and behave a certain way and a lot of shyt I’ve said, thought and done was because of that conditioning.

Most people don’t even see it at all. People walking around under mind control and think they have original thoughts and actions and it’s just a big ass coincidence most other people think and behave the same exact way.

 

[MasterThought]

When I was an undergrad, I watched a movie a night for like 4 years straight. Everything, every type of movie, all different countries. I toyed with being a film major, but realized it's very hard to be successful in that field, and I thought psychology was a better choice.

Movies are powerful and music is powerful. Ideologically, I don't like the idea that some media can force individuals to believe or do certain things. I just don't like that idea. However, there is evidence that it does affect people. It's clear there are agendas being placed in movies and tv. I think anybody can see that. But, does it really lead to meaningful change in people? I don't want to believe that, but maybe...

No offense my brotha, but how old are you?

Kinda wild to me reading your post that you're still questioning if media (movies, music, etc) has the power to influence/affect people.

I mean, what more evidence do you need?

 

[dangerranger]

Related:

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/do-movies-give-you-more-life-lessons-than-life-itself.983025/

I think there is far more to this influence than most people will admit, mainly due to how invisible it is if you live a life unexamined.

Once you've seen it though its quite obvious the world dances on the fingertips of the hidden hand and are pulled by strings attached to their subconscious which cannot help but take in everything it witnesses and then uses it as the basis for the rest that happens next. Remember, your brain cannot differentiate between imagination and the real thing:

That was crazy to watch and really makes you think about perception and what we believe is real because what our brain tells us even when tricked.

 

[JQ Legend]

That was crazy to watch and really makes you think about perception and what we believe is real because what our brain tells us even when tricked.

This right here gets deep

This is why when I hear people say they won’t believe God exists till they can see God in physical form I know they have a long way to go.

A lot of people figure the 5 senses tells them everything about reality. They even imagine an afterlife where the 5 senses rule and dictate what’s real.

 

[Ciggavelli]

No offense my brotha, but how old are you?

Kinda wild to me reading your post that you're still questioning if media (movies, music, etc) has the power to influence/affect people.

I mean, what more evidence do you need?

I’m 40. I never said there was no evidence of it. I said I don’t like the idea. I don’t like the idea that people are being brainwashed by tv and music. That’s because in my own life, I don’t see it. I’ve been listening to gangsta rap since elementary school, “satanic” metal since middle school, have been playing violent video games since middle school, have been watching violent movies since middle school, etc. I’m not a violent person, I don’t perform human sacrifices for satan. I don’t sell drugs, I’m not beating people up. None of that happened to me. The same can be said for millions and millions of others.

Also, I don’t like where this argument goes. It leads to censorship and the banning of art. I know this site has become anti-rap music, and I hate that. I don’t think rap music is to blame for society’s ills.

Correlation is not causation, and I think there is a third variable or two going on. I don’t think you can lock somebody in a room, feed them only rap music for a period of time and then all of the sudden they are doing drugs and shooting people. There are other variables that are needed. Saying music or the media is to blame for bad things is just a simple, easy answer. It’s more complicated than that.

 

[MostReal]

I’m 40. I never said there was no evidence of it. I said I don’t like the idea. I don’t like the idea that people are being brainwashed by tv and music. That’s because in my own life, I don’t see it. I’ve been listening to gangsta rap since elementary school, “satanic” metal since middle school, have been playing violent video games since middle school, have been watching violent movies since middle school, etc. I’m not a violent person, I don’t perform human sacrifices for satan. I don’t sell drugs, I’m not beating people up. None of that happened to me. The same can be said for millions and millions of others.

Also, I don’t like where this argument goes. It leads to censorship and the banning of art. I know this site has become anti-rap music, and I hate that. I don’t think rap music is to blame for society’s ills.

Correlation is not causation, and I think there is a third variable or two going on. I don’t think you can lock somebody in a room, feed them only rap music for a period of time and then all of the sudden they are doing drugs and shooting people. There are other variables that are needed. Saying music or the media is to blame for bad things is just a simple, easy answer. It’s more complicated than that.

yeah that's not how it works and thankfully everyone isn't as susceptible as others, some of us can resist or compartmentalize music, art etc and leave it there. Some can't, also some of the stuff is meant to be subversive and not outwardly expressed but to steer one subconsciously. Like you said these things don't always work though.

IMO, words are more powerful than music, imo. Music can affect feelings, words can affect thought and action.

 

[MostReal]

Y'all can't enjoy anything without getting scared of the occult.

"Welcome to Subway, would you like a sandwich?"

"Sand witch? Arabian witchcraft?! Sub guey? You're subliminally trying to replace me with Mexicans?!?!!"

The spelling spell

Spoiler: unplugged

crazy take here but just about every movie film in Hollywood is based off the bible or more aptly put the inversion of it. Those people are more obsessed with overthrowing the Word of God than religious zealots are of spreading it. The mere prevalence of the number 6 or variations of it in film is crazy.

 

[MMS]

I’m 40. I never said there was no evidence of it. I said I don’t like the idea. I don’t like the idea that people are being brainwashed by tv and music. That’s because in my own life, I don’t see it. I’ve been listening to gangsta rap since elementary school, “satanic” metal since middle school, have been playing violent video games since middle school, have been watching violent movies since middle school, etc. I’m not a violent person, I don’t perform human sacrifices for satan. I don’t sell drugs, I’m not beating people up. None of that happened to me. The same can be said for millions and millions of others.

Also, I don’t like where this argument goes. It leads to censorship and the banning of art. I know this site has become anti-rap music, and I hate that. I don’t think rap music is to blame for society’s ills.

Correlation is not causation, and I think there is a third variable or two going on. I don’t think you can lock somebody in a room, feed them only rap music for a period of time and then all of the sudden they are doing drugs and shooting people. There are other variables that are needed. Saying music or the media is to blame for bad things is just a simple, easy answer. It’s more complicated than that.

it reminds me of the two kinds of thinkers

the ones who have internal voices and the ones who don't and are confused about those who do. While a seemingly small difference, it speaks to how some people's inability to separate their own babble from the real babel ends up confusing not just others but themselves also.

an easy solution is to hold your nose while you think

 

[MMS]

The spelling spell

Spoiler: unplugged

crazy take here but just about every movie film in Hollywood is based off the bible or more aptly put the inversion of it. Those people are more obsessed with overthrowing the Word of God than religious zealots are of spreading it. The mere prevalence of the number 6 or variations of it in film is crazy.

its because its a number pattern that David and Solomon introduced (albeit out of ignorance)

when David did a census and numbered the people, he did a grave thing and arguably singlehandedly destroyed his own kingdom. The "Star of David" is borrowed from an earlier Hittite/Hindu/Tengrist origin

pattern worship is a strange thing but unfortunately nigh inescapable at the level it is entrenched at

 

[SunZoo]

an easy solution is to hold your nose while you think

I'll do you one better.

Next time you have a minute of quiet, simply ask yourself "Where is my next thought coming from" and wait for an answer...

 

[DreamyKnights]

Now compare it to the power of music

 

[Afro]

Not a fan of the KJV but the original Bible is something I would Love to read

I'm still surprised that more people don't scoff at a blatant human being having the Bible be rewritten in his image and that being the defacto version.

 

[Lexington Steele]

crazy take here but just about every movie film in Hollywood is based off the bible or more aptly put the inversion of it. Those people are more obsessed with overthrowing the Word of God than religious zealots are of spreading it. The mere prevalence of the number 6 or variations of it in film is crazy.

Hollywood is in America. America is full of Christians. Of course their media is going to be influenced by the Bible.

Also, "Movie film?" Are you Borat?

 

[RehReh]

^ Look at your gym playlist for example then ponder if we all would've got as wild as we did back when as reckless jits if it wasn't for the soundtrack that OK'd and glorified it...

There's layers to this and most never even scratch the surface due to the unexamined lives they live.

Entertrainment in full effect.

So true because I was listening to Method Man when a slapped my car bonnet and I ended up chasing him.through traffic for 15 mins before I gave up.

If I was listening to my children's playlist I probably would have shrugged it off.

 

[Complexion]

Sound is one of the few things that isn't re-presented inside the head. Meaning 1:1 resonance and I'm quite certain the nervous systems works like a tuning fork or antenna. In that respect it draws more like itself to it and the effect this has on our consciousness then actions should be quite obvious. Old buildings were often designed with this intent and it may facilitate altered states as well if people chant the same syllables with coherence and modulation of pitch.



Either way there is so much more to all of this than the surface would make most people (not) think as who really stops to ponder what is in front of them? Or inside them? Or, better yet, that which is actually doing all of this. People often trip over the truth, dust themselves off and carry on like nothing happened...