Do y'all take this as Cam and Mase disrespecting Big L or being truthful?

[Razzay]

 

[AMcV'88]

I seen the tweet with older guy mad as hell to the point he had to post his Big L cd to prove a point. shut your ass up.

the Pac clip, the Juelz clip and now the Big L clip has made me realize people need better comprehension when it comes to listening and reading.
so quick to be on the draw with fake outrage you can't properly understand what they were saying

Mase always been weird when it came to L but there was no malice or disrespect in what Cam was saying

for whatever reason Big L never made the most of his time in the game. it is what it is
L was their peer that encouraged them, well Cam to rap and they ended up going further so you can understand why they maybe don't see him in the same fanatical light his rabid fans do.

if Big L was a ball player he would have a great highlight mixtape, Mase came in rookie of the year then fell off, Cam is say... a Melo, had the great career which in turn should've been better than what it was.

all legends

 

[ISO]

Harlem low key lacking

Juelz top 5

Nikkas jacking battle rappers

 

[NoirDynosaur]

The thing is, for those of us who grew up around all of them and saw them all the time, the whole block always thought L was the best rapper around the way, way before the world even knew who he was. He was better than everyone as far as back as '91-'92.

There used to be a spot right on 139th and Lenox called United Fried Chicken. And we would all go there all the time, and if the right people were in there at a given moment, everyone would be in there rhyming. Straight cyphers for mad long. Even dudes who were nice from around the way, but just never put out music. L was always in there ripping sh*t. You would see Cam, you would see McGruff all the time, Tooka, Ray Dogs, and a lot of other dudes. The thing about Mase, and I don’t say this to be disrespectful, but his name was never really ringing around the way.

To this day, no one can even say which block he's actually from in Harlem. They say he's from Florida and came up to NY in kindergarten and then moved back for junior high school and then came back again for high school. So he doesn't have the history in Harlem to have really been known like that before Puff got him. With the dudes we all knew growing up, when all of them were coming up, his name wasn't one of the ones you would hear about.

A lot of other MC's had the blocks buzzing. But Mase went from being on a couple mixtapes while signed, to being on TV 24/7 in videos. So when L did his album 2-3 years earlier, I wasn't surprised that he wasn't on it because it wasn't like Mase had a name like that where people were looking for him to be.

Witnessing one of the greatest emcees to emerge must've been so surreal! Especially in 90's Harlem

Big L was a lyrical wordsmith. L took multisyllabic rhymes to a higher echelon -- Pun would eventually emerge from that. L had that pistol-fast delivery that had dudes amazed


Big L was the first to even tour worldwide! Europe showed L mad love. His stage presence, charisma and lyrical steelo had the crowd moving




Mase did some have impact in the game during the Shiny Suit era when Big died. Came with a classic album and was killing freestyles from 96-97. Mase also birthed that laidback style. The same style Fabolous would use in the 2000's.

 

[seemorecizzy]

I got love for big l but what they said wasn't false lol
he has his shot and didnt really pop and his album was just okay
woulda been interesting to see what happened with him and da roc, but he did have limitiations

 

[FreshAIG]

If I'm just doing "industry rappers" from Harlem:

Cam, Big L, Mase, McGruff, Kool Moe Dee are my top 5

 

[seemorecizzy]

Mase is da best rapper from harlem
Definitely better den big L

 

[FreshAIG]

Harlem low key lacking

Juelz top 5

Nikkas jacking battle rappers

Cam pretty much said that in the interview. He said Harlem don't have a lot of rappers to choose from like Queens or other places in NYC. Hell, even if you don't pigeonhole it to just Harlem, and expand it to all of Manhattan, still not that many.

 

[Rekkapryde]

i watched the interview, i thought they were being genuine and fair when they were trying to grade and place Big L on where they would rank Big L on their lists

and they both said, it was no slight or disrespect to Big L.

it felt like they were coming from a genuine place and really trying to rank him accordingly to music and memory.


and like Cam said, L didn't really get that time to possibly be that artist he had the talent to be, so it's always a "what if" and question mark


even L's album sorta fell short of what an emcee of his caliber could've made at that time in the 90's. Good album, but not quite up to par IMO


They knew Big L as a childhood friend from how we as the rest of the world knew Big L as an artist and emcee, so I feel like their hearts are in the right place


They didn't come off disrespectful or fake to me, just felt like they were being FAIR and HONEST

exactly.

 

[Shadow King]

The thing is, for those of us who grew up around all of them and saw them all the time, the whole block always thought L was the best rapper around the way, way before the world even knew who he was. He was better than everyone as far as back as '91-'92.

There used to be a spot right on 139th and Lenox called United Fried Chicken. And we would all go there all the time, and if the right people were in there at a given moment, everyone would be in there rhyming. Straight cyphers for mad long. Even dudes who were nice from around the way, but just never put out music. L was always in there ripping sh*t. You would see Cam, you would see McGruff all the time, Tooka, Ray Dogs, and a lot of other dudes. The thing about Mase, and I don’t say this to be disrespectful, but his name was never really ringing around the way.

To this day, no one can even say which block he's actually from in Harlem. They say he's from Florida and came up to NY in kindergarten and then moved back for junior high school and then came back again for high school. So he doesn't have the history in Harlem to have really been known like that before Puff got him. With the dudes we all knew growing up, when all of them were coming up, his name wasn't one of the ones you would hear about.

A lot of other MC's had the blocks buzzing. But Mase went from being on a couple mixtapes while signed, to being on TV 24/7 in videos. So when L did his album 2-3 years earlier, I wasn't surprised that he wasn't on it because it wasn't like Mase had a name like that where people were looking for him to be.

You told me you wasn't old

 

[FunkDoc1112]

I dont think it was disrespectful at all. Cam basically said that L just didnt have enough time to really leave a mark in the game (which is very true). Even his 1st album suffered from pushbacks and honestly sounded dated by the time it dropped compared to what else was going on. L is nice as fukk we know that but I think a lot of these nikkas who hype L to be top 5 is only doing it because it seems like. You got nikkas born in 2005 talking about "Big L was the goat"

Now mase said he basically felt a way because he was left off that album I remember years ago mase mentioned L was stealing some of his rhymes in an interview and he caught HEAT for that shyt.

To be honest I always felt cam & mase was getting the best of him on those old freestyles i would put them both above L for sure

you cant tell me L is touching either of them on these 2

Hell Up In Harlem might be my favorite Mas$e performance period. nikka is so naturally talented and effortless. He and It Was Written era Nas are like my ideal MC

 

[FunkDoc1112]

The wild thing was, Showbiz was promoting "No Skinz, No Endz" on underground radio in '93, because he produced it. L was going around doing a little promo run with that song and "Devil's Son". The label was just holding his album for years.

Buckwild was a much better producer in '95, than he was 2-3 years before. So I always think about how crazier the album would've been, if they let L get back in the studio with Buck and Finesse. Like you said, L was way more advanced years later too. You don’t want your album to finally drop and it's mad old sh*t you did years ago. Columbia did him dirty.

Yeah, Put It On sounds so much cleaner than the rest of the album. Everything else was on that Riggety-Rough hardcore shyt that NYC was on in 92/93

 

[Braman]

I felt nothing wrong with what they said

Wallo has a problem. He has a god heart and 90% of thr time he thorough but he tends to do a tad too much and cross over into sleazy media tactics (Like when he posted periwnl DMs). ‘I feel he was the best ngga ever ever from Harlem’ is such a sucker statement and setup statement. Like why would you even say that in some type of debate fashion , also while you lookin dead at cam and mase who were DEEPLY tied to that man pause and are Harlem legends and regardless of what you think they are in that convo.

Also he was just wrong ‘I felt like if he had a deal’. That’s just ignorant. As mase said, he was alive when nggas was on. His shyt just didn’t pop. So it’s like ok what am I supposed to do, correct your blatantly wrong statement or just sit up there smile and nod.

It’s like ok Kobe died and you interviewing LeBron and say ‘I feel Kobe is the best ever…he just never had help’. Like wtf im supposed to do?! Let you not only dismiss me but also use bad info to do it?!

 

[Awesome Wells]

You told me you wasn't old

LOL!! I'm not.

I was just raised in this. Day one, for real.

 

[Shadow King]

LOL!! I'm not.

I was just raised in this. Day one, for real.

This must be some "Ay listen ...you as old as you think youngblood " shìt