Do we have a qb development problem

[KidJSoul]

Its important to remember that there always bad QB classes. This isn't anything new. 2007, 2010, 2013, 2015,

How many good QBs came out between 94 and 97? Bledsoe was the only starter produced in 93.

Even if the development was better, many would not pan out because physical tools, mental processing, poise, and attention to detail are not easy to to teach and they are not easy to carry over onto the field

 

[Heelmatic]

Kids in college want playing time more than they want to learn how to play the position.

It's also some of these coaches, GM's, and coordinators getting hired that have NO BUSINESS being in the position they're in.

IMO it starts with the fans though. Everybody wants instant success so if you need time to develop, do it somewhere else, we trying to win over here

 

[SubZeroDegrees]

When the NFLPA added less practice time to their agreement, you see the ripple effect now. You will need time to develop them.

 

[Bboystyle]

Not in Green Bay

 

[broller]

Its important to remember that there always bad QB classes. This isn't anything new. 2007, 2010, 2013, 2015,

How many good QBs came out between 94 and 97? Bledsoe was the only starter produced in 93.

Even if the development was better, many would not pan out because physical tools, mental processing, poise, and attention to detail are not easy to to teach and they are not easy to carry over onto the field

Facts

Mans are forgetting that Deshaun, Pat, Lamar, Josh, Kyler have all had some degree of success early in their careers.

Also, the 2020 class is looking great. Burrow, Tua Herbert and Love all will likely get second contracts with the team that drafted them, if they haven't already.

Plus the 2022 draft class for QB was looked at as a weak one from the outset

 

[Black Hans]

Yes, in the sense that QBs are not allowed to develop like they used to. It took Peyton Manning 4 seasons to become the legend we know today. Rodgers was drafted in 2004 and didn't get his first start till 2008. There was a time in which it was understood that QBs need a few years before becoming a good to great QB. Now with this fast food like culture in the US, if you're not great in your first 2 seasons, it's . Even on here, cats are writing off Bryce Young after 1 season!!

 

[Street Knowledge]

It’s really hard to play QB at an elite level.

Breaking News

 

[DropTopDoc]

have to consider how development has changed / is being done at the college level as well

Not much, but there job is to win games

Bruce Arians warned everyone about this years ago



Last month, Kurt Warner


And then add that they're getting no help at the pro level, and there's a reason you're seeing bad qb play

I think a lot of guys aren’t getting competent coaching or game plans I’d be willing to bet a lot of coaches pick a guy to do their system regardless if it’s a fit

Unless teams have a bonafide star, they simply date QBs for the short to intermediate term...teams always keep their eyes open for better options unless your a team like KC or Buff

If a QB is worth $50M in this current climate, you should build a team around them that suits their strengths

I actually think the problem is stability...how long was Charlie Weis Brady's OC? How long was Tom Moore Peyton Manning's OC? My team's QB is on his 4th OC in 5 yrs.

QBs need stability, they need experience around them, they need support from the front office...they need patience

Longevity too but the nfl is not for long so there’s that

 

[DropTopDoc]

The NFL's rookie wage scale has destroyed it, it's better to "reset the clock" salary wise than try to give them a 2nd contract. So you got 3/4 years to sink or swim, that's it.

I think more teams should move on from qbs they know don’t have it

 

[IIVI]

I think it's two-fold: some trainers these players hire are ripping them off and some NFL teams should bring their talent along more slowly to manage expectations.

 

[MikelArteta]

It's also the rookie scale contracts, if a qb is a bust no reason to continue to invest into him because he's not getting paid a ginormous deal. Just cut your losses and move on.

From 2021-2022 there were 19 quarterbacks selected in the NFL Draft They SUCK its that simple, a stud qb ain't going to be in every draft

Zach Wilson, Trey Lance, Justin FIelds, Kellon mond, davis mills,ian book, sam ehlinger,
pickett, ridder, malik willis, matt corral, bailey zappe, sam howell, oladokun, skylar thompson,

these dudes had chancles

Multiple starts for wilson, fields, mills, eglinger, pickett, ridder, malik willis, zappe, howell, thompson
they just don't have it

 

[CarltonJunior]

have to consider how development has changed / is being done at the college level as well

I think colleges are less patient with QBs also but they don't really teach them the position. They teach them their system that they run, not the universally applicable skills that translate to the next level.

They learn all that with their own guys through the offseason with their individual QB coaches like throwing mechanics and such. And the intangibles they just hope to develop throughout their time playing.

Burrow wasn't taught to be Burrow by either of the schools he went to, he was already Burrow. Even a guy like Hurts became Hurts on his own time when he was ousted from Bama, Bama was content with the Hurts as an athlete that wasn't comfortable throwing 15+ yards or standing firm in the pocket

 

[FTBS]

Bomani makes a great point. You look throughtout history and look at how much QBs...even great ones were asked to throw in their primes. Then you look at how much dudes throw out the gate now.

But this is it

they have the equation backwards

great team comes first

they keep putting the qb first & that's the most team dependent position

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Teams are shytty. They draft a QB into the shyt and he is supposed to magically turn the shyt into gold overnight. And when they dont all the blame goes on them. Rinse, repeat. Same thing happens in the NBA. Its easier to sell hope of the savior than it is to build an actual functional squad.

 

[MushroomX]

Jets don't have that problem. They have a 15-year Development program with Green Bay.
2038 can't come soon enough!

 

[CarltonJunior]

I think more teams should move on from qbs they know don’t have it

Yes and no. There's teams that do that consistently without fail but it just creates a revolving door of losers. There's also teams that hold on to very mid or unworthy QBs like the titans with tannehill. I don't think all of these situations are made equal.

I think if the QB is a project and we haven't seen their ceiling, they should get more of a buffer vs a journeyman whose best days are behind him and is hanging on.