Do the Olympics finally prove that Race has little to do with athleticism??

[J-Fire]

My point exactly. These games doesn't prove ish about race being a factor. So that is why is disagreed with the OP.

But sports where technique and training <<<<athletic ability are most important....Black dominate

that's good enough logic to doubt black quarterbacks because that position requires technique and training...you don't have to run around like running back or receiver.

 

[Wesley Pipes quotes]

American culture is american culture. we have people that can compete at all distances! we seperating races now for olypmics?!??! I don't remember seeing any african american team...the all say USA!

I agree but there are sub-cultures man. Races within this country have their own cultural practices outside of the mainstream. It is what it is. But generally speaking most African Americans aren't doing swimming and that's a cultural thing that dates back to slavery, not to mention the socioeconomic issues like having accessible pools.

Distance running I can attest to personally having ran in college. Trust when I'd go to meets and speak with people they automatically assumed I was doing the 100M or 400M. Then when I corrected them, they'd ask what [Insert African country] I was from.

 

[Texas2step]

that's good enough logic to doubt black quarterbacks because that position requires technique and training...you don't have to run around like running back or receiver.

Idiot black qbs don't dominate because of the lack of opportunity and availability. There are probably 4 or 5 black starting qbs in a League with 30 teams. The odds are stack against them to win suberbowl. Plus no black qb ever had an allstar defense like Pats, Giants, Ravens, Steelers, or the Colts the year they won their titles

 

[Houston911]

sounds a bit hypocritical but i dont run this site so i know its not my decision

Did your mom bring you around her black family or was she too ashamed of them? You seem very confused.

 

[StatUS]

So the 10 meter air rifle is a sport now because it's in the Olympics

Damn dodged like a mutha

 

[Black Magisterialness]

Has it ever dawned on any of you that blacks are 12% of the American Population but majority of the NFL, NBA Olympic Track events, have a ACTUAL presence in virtually every sport in the Olympics?

 

[you're NOT "n!ggas"]

quite honestly all this argument about whether ping pong or whatever else is a sport is just a waste of time. china is LEADIN the olympics in medals right now and it aint just cuz of ping pong

Why are black folks disagreeing with this?

You do know the implication that if you say we're faster in track because of genetics means you open the door for these fakkit racists to say that the reason we get lower test scores is cause we're intellectually inferior because of genetics.


I agree that race has nothing to do with athleticism. If it did then shouldn't some other black folks rather than Ethiopians or Kenyans win the distance running? Or if all black people had genetic talent then shouldn't some other black folk rather than Jamaicans or African Americans win the sprints? The reason it seems like certain groups dominate certain sports has more of do with WORK ETHIC, HEART, and the ENVIRONMENT one grows in.

I mean Nigeria is the worlds largest country in terms of black folk and they've never had a track champion in the Olympics. The second largest country in terms of number of black folks is Brazil but I've never seen one of them win track final. Why is it just a small island in the Caribbean that is producing all the great sprinters in the world? If it was just about innate talent then wouldn't countries with more black people be producing more great athletes?


Ain't it funny that when white people or chinese people are good at something they credit it to hard work but when black folk are good at something they just credit to genetics. As if saying that the only reason they ain't better than us at running track is cause we lucked out with better genes. I say fukk this. And any black person who falls for this ain't doing us a favor because its a backhanded diss rather than a compliment.

prolific post. better yet at the bolded, if we agree that we're athletically superior, then whats to stop whites/the powers that be from AGREEING and saying that they're the intellectual superiors??? whats to stop them from manipulatin the system so it works EXACTLY in that favor??? nikkas in here feelin boastful about the shyt... economic and educational progress are stagnant in the hood but ohhhh we got em here. nobody else is "athletic" as us lets keep pattin ourselves on the back about this while they continue to secure wealth

Has it ever dawned on any of you that blacks are 12% of the American Population but majority of the NFL, NBA Olympic Track events, have a ACTUAL presence in virtually every sport in the Olympics?

we make up only 12% of the population. thats total, yet we're 60 some odd percent of the nfl, 80% of the league... stop and really think those numbers. the idea that we could be that much more athletic than people who outnumber us 5 times over is just bullshyt

gettin realllll tempted to redo my thread on all this shyt... but then again this one is kinda seemin just as effective

 

[The Real]

Black folks are overrepresented in athletic events, just like in entertainment, because these are the only two avenues deemed appropriate for Black people by white supremacist norms. This eventually led to the present situation, where a much higher number of Black folks want to be athletes and train for it because they see it as either more desirable than being a scientist/lawyer/etc. or easier/more possible for them, while Black folks who want to be other things are constantly hindered by glass ceilings and racism in general. That kind of social situation naturally leads to overrepresentation that makes it look like Black people have some special talent when it comes to physical athleticism. It has nothing to do with genetics, as scientists have shown.

Black folks believing in this genetic nonsense are basically giving racist ideas a free pass. The stereotype about Black athleticism was never positive- it has its roots in the image of Black people as beasts, ape-like, lower down the evolutionary ladder, etc.

 

[Black Magisterialness]

Black folks are overrepresented in athletic events, just like in entertainment, because these are the only two avenues deemed appropriate for Black people by white supremacist norms. This eventually led to the present situation, where a much higher number of Black folks want to be athletes and train for it because they see it as either more desirable than being a scientist/lawyer/etc. or easier/more possible for them, while Black folks who want to be other things are constantly hindered by glass ceilings and racism in general. That kind of social situation naturally leads to overrepresentation that makes it look like Black people have some special talent when it comes to physical athleticism. It has nothing to do with genetics, as scientists have shown.

Black folks believing in this genetic nonsense are basically giving racist ideas a free pass. The stereotype about Black athleticism was never positive- it has its roots in the image of Black people as beasts, ape-like, lower down the evolutionary ladder, etc.

I saw your point until athletics became a multi million dollar corp, with avenues for further empowerment for people of color. You really think Magic woulda been able to buy the Dodger without it?

While genetics may have naught to do with it it DOES have alot to do with conditioning. It seems that Black men in America based of these social situations are more inclined to BE more athletically conditioned. And thus have better shots at major athletic avenues.

And to counter your point about not being Scientists ect. That has more to do with being POOR than being Black...just as many if not more poor white families try to get their kids into Hockey, Baseball, Gymnastics ect. with hopes of them reaching the limelight...Its not uncommon for white fams to send an athletically talented gymnast off to another state to train...or make little timmy play Hockey in Winnipeg for the summer to get his skills up. The access and social norms change the sports but the goals are the same.

 

[intruder]

In what way?

is this only in America??

don't let American blacks and whites be the sole part of your argument.

you got some frail ass lookin africans and some physical beasts in eastern europe.

it evens out when you look overall. I wouldn't put one race over another in anything.

When i speak it's usually form a global point of view unless specified otherwise and i try my hardest not to be a homer.

It's not secret that people of african descent tend to be better physical specimen. It just is. Now where they grow up and the foods that they eat (based on cultrural practices) tend to be major factors in it too.

• Overall white american tend to be athletically worst than their european counterparts are far better.
• Africans and black from the Caribbean are as athletic or can be even more athletic than black americans BUT they don't have the infrastructure of facilities to further develop said athleticism.

I think the TYPICAL base american diet has a lot to do with it so i can only imagine how much better athletes from the US would be if the food wasnt as horrible.

The thing is when you speak to Americans about their white athletes they bring up football and baseball. Two sports that requie very little athleticism at the positions where whites succeed much

• Offensive line and Defensive Line in football are a bunch of fat heads
• Baseball isnt a very athletic sport at all
• Quarterback doesnt require much athleticism (See Peyton Manning/Tom Brady)

Some of the best white athletes from the U.S.A are usually playing soccer, and other sports which are NOT big there so the athletes end up falling under the radar to the typical Americn sports fan who's idea of sports = Football, basketball, baseball and Hockey

 

[you're NOT "n!ggas"]

I saw your point until athletics became a multi million dollar corp, with avenues for further empowerment for people of color. You really think Magic woulda been able to buy the Dodger without it?

While genetics may have naught to do with it it DOES have alot to do with conditioning. It seems that Black men in America based of these social situations are more inclined to BE more athletically conditioned. And thus have better shots at major athletic avenues.

And to counter your point about not being Scientists ect. That has more to do with being POOR than being Black...just as many if not more poor white families try to get their kids into Hockey, Baseball, Gymnastics ect. with hopes of them reaching the limelight...Its not uncommon for white fams to send an athletically talented gymnast off to another state to train...or make little timmy play Hockey in Winnipeg for the summer to get his skills up. The access and social norms change the sports but the goals are the same.

you think just cuz its a multibillion dollar industry its some how good for black people lets stop and think about how many actually make it... then how many actually stay for a legit career... then how many actually don't go broke and end up like magic johnson


black men are inclined to be more athletically conditioned because we've been TARGETED and TOLD we are. at the same time that we were fightin hoses and dogs to share simple shyt like water fountains or the same restaurant, we we comin into the nba/nfl in droves... like the real said, its entertainment. the SAME shyt is happenin today in samoa... how are kids on an island of 70,000 people 50x more likely to enter the nfl than anyone else in the world

 

[GoddamnyamanProf]

Why are black folks disagreeing with this?

You do know the implication that if you say we're faster in track because of genetics means you open the door for these fakkit racists to say that the reason we get lower test scores is cause we're intellectually inferior because of genetics.

No, not necessarily. If you're a racist, you simply believe one race of people is intrinsically superior, so you'll accept perceived instances of this as evidence, while coming up with reasons and excuses for other areas where it is not the case. There's no logic involved.

 

[Swagnificent]

Thats a straw man argument.

So if i say African Americans on average are taller than the Japanese because of genetics (fact) i open the door for them to say they are smarter than me (opinion)? If some racists want to spout out some bullshyt opinions i cant stop them. Im not worried about that but for some reason it clearly bothers you.

No its not a straw man argument. But even if it was, I don't see how saying black folks are genetically superior athletically helps us in any way. I'd much rather our great athletes get credit for their hard work and training rather than white folks just chalking it up to random luck for getting the right genes.

 

[Swagnificent]

If running track is the result of genetics, then how come a small island of 2.75 million people is dominating?

There are 166 million black people in Nigeria and only 2.75 million in Jamaica. Both countries are poor and lack proper infrastructure. Yet Jamaica owns the 100m and 200m for both men and women. If its all about genetics then the brothas in Jamaica must have something in their genes that other black folk don't have.

I'm gonna give credit to the Jamaicans for having a culture that promotes sprinting and athletes who've worked harder and dedicated themselves more thoroughly than the rest of humanity. I'm not gonna cheat them of their accomplishments like most white racists want to do and just chalk up their success to their skin color.

 

[Swagnificent]

No, not necessarily. If you're a racist, you simply believe one race of people is intrinsically superior, so you'll accept perceived instances of this as evidence, while coming up with reasons and excuses for other areas where it is not the case. There's no logic involved.

Dude I'm not talking to white racists. They'll always have their racist beliefs. I'm talking specifically toward black folks.

How do you simultaneously make the argument that we are genetically gifted to be superior athletes citing numbers like the percentage of black athletes in the NBA/NFL/track yet deny that we are NOT genetically inferior intellectually if numbers like test scores are cited? You can't deny that you open the door to that argument if you accept that genes can have such control over our abilities.

IN ADDITION, I don't know what good it does us to believe we are better than white folk at athletics just because of our skin color. I'd much rather celebrate our athletes for being better than whites because they worked and trained harder.