Do people here listen to the Context of White Supremacy? (C.O.W.S)

[xoxodede]

I would like to know everyone's take on ADOS movement.
As a black South African I'm seeing a lot of posts accross all platforms.

Instead of reiterating the specific tangibles needed there seems to be a lot of Africa bashing, foreign blacks bashing and distancing one from Afica. Now if you are familiar white supremacy globally you already know this self hatred masked behind political or national ideologies is very very common in Brazil and other majority black S.American countries like Colombia and pf course the West Indies.

Instead of ADOS being the a brilliant political strategy to get money and other incentives for black victims of racism, it seems to be "we are American fukk those African savages"
They do the same thing here in South Africa with the so-called xenophobic attacks on foreign black nationals. We are Zulu/Xhosa fukk those kwere-kwere(South African equivalent ot 'Akatta') .

I'm not attacking the ADOS movement itself, rather the confused victims who see this as yet another to distance themselves from their Africannes in an fools chase for white acceptance. I wish i had the brilliance of Dr Amos N Wilson coz he'd break it all the way down.
Again this is not about arguments, just wanna hear what you've observed
Thoughts?

ADOS and C.O.W.S. listener and supporter.

It's not for White Acceptance -- it's for an ethnic identity and for reparations.

I have seen non-ADOS attack ADOS for wanting those two things -- while using White Supremacist tactic, verbiage and arguments.

I think if we see more non-ADOS support -- a lot of the verbal retaliation from ADOS to non-ADOS will stop.

 

[Cape Town JHB]

Did anyone go to the Yoga retreat with Gus and em?

Imagine trying to smash one of them "counter racist" chicks and Gus cockkblockin talking bowt "8th area of people activity is not a priority on this retreat"

Can't hit on PAWGs either coz this is "maximum racist aggression"
Man I'd be too uncodified on that retreat

Gus looking at me with 2 white girls on my arms with the VGQ
FACE

 

[xoxodede]

Imagine trying to smash one of them "counter racist" chicks and Gus cockkblockin talking bowt "8th area of people activity is not a priority on this retreat"

Can't hit on PAWGs either coz this is "maximum racist aggression"
Man I'd be too uncodified on that retreat

Gus looking at me with 2 white girls on my arms with the VGQ
FACE

I'm a woman and I dont engage in nor support tragic relationships.

But... VGQ.

 

[Cape Town JHB]

I went on a few prominent YouTube pages that were talking about ADOS vs Pan Africanism etc and i literally clicked on the profiles of any comments with 50-100 likes spreading dissent and conflict.

I would say close to 90% of these profiles were bots:
-there was never a follow up comment, when you clicked on the profile
-it showed no comment or viewership history
- literally the accounts had never viewed or commented on anything else
-also coz I'm quite used to white people posing as black people online(in South Africa they'll use a Zulu/Xhosa name of a colleague but will literally put in a black person's entire government name, no black person in their 20s or 30s does that.
the names of these accounts were using were based on things that culturally are simply too old/antiquated e.g. CrackerKilla or something to do with ancient Egypt like "HorusEmpire" etc
-They also had stock images of the "blackest" thing they could find online "black power fists" "dead black leaders" etc

Alot of these fake bot accounts and trolls had the comments section in complete conflict and division.

The general tone and message of these bot accounts again was not to talk about reparations, lobby groups and a general outline of the movement etc but was about name calling Africans or and baiting for vitriolic responses.

I would like to know what your thoughts are on who might be doing this and for what purposes? ... I know ADOS movement fukked up a few token politicians' presidential run and the so-called black vote by forcing reparations into the equation,but what is there to be achieved by Negroes and foreign darkies infighting? especially when the numbers of foreign blacks in the US are so small.

I get the self hatred and needing to distance one from Africa that's always the case with black people globally, self hatred "i not black i Dominicano(replace with gender/sexual preferences/tribe /nationality etc) but i wasn't expecting hundreds of troll accounts all over comments sections of every single ADOS related video.

Please note that as a black South African male I'd heard about ADOS but it was completely not on my radar, the ONLY reason i started doing some investigation was based purely on the conflict it had spawned, every forum, comment section, articles comments, videos etc was just black people fighting, for me that's been and is the only red flag and immediately evoked Neely Fuller's slave ship analogy.

Black people starving by the hundreds, white supremacists picks 10 black people to feed whilst the others watch on. Tens of millions of Black descendants of slaves in the US being jailed, murdered, discriminated, white people vet out self hating white identified Africans by the hundreds of thousands and give them scholarships and jobs and rewards and sit back and watch the mayhem that ensues.


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I'm not gonna call out Yvette Carnell and Co coz that's low hanging fruit, also it has been my experience that even well-intentioned righteous black people can be used to advance white supremacy against their knowledge, Mandela, Dr King, etc or if they resist get killed Malcolm, Lamumba etc . So attacking another confused black person won't help.

PLEASE NOTE THIS IS NOT ABOUT ARGUING WITH PRO OR ANTI ADOS BLACK PEOPLE. I SIMPLY WANT TO DISCUSS THE BLATANT INFILTRATION OF YET ANOTHER BLACK MOVEMENT, NOT ARGUE.



Thoughts?

 

[omnifax]

PLEASE NOTE THIS IS NOT ABOUT ARGUING WITH PRO OR ANTI ADOS BLACK PEOPLE. I SIMPLY WANT TO DISCUSS THE BLATANT INFILTRATION OF YET ANOTHER BLACK MOVEMENT, NOT ARGUE.

I'm willing to discuss this. First though I would need some clarification on what you mean by infiltration? You stated you saw a lot of arguments between ADOS and non-ADOS in comment sections and forums but when you spoke of the videos from "bots" you said they had no following, low view count and no viewing history. My question would be if that is the case how are they viewed as people within the ranks of ADOS if they have no following or any connections to the most prominent figures within the group?

This brings me to the thought that this is ultimately a shortcoming of a movement that is started online. The anonymity of the internet just allows anyone to attach themselves to something like this with very little to verify if they are legitimate or not. Fortunately Yvette Carnell and Antonio Moore have established the website which states the mission and what we are try to achieve in addition to the ADOS conference in October which will help as well. I think once people start meeting up and organizing it will help clear some misconceptions and help non-ADOS understand it more clearly if they are willing to listen.

 

[saturn7]

How the fukk is ADOS advocating to be fully American and for economic Reparations in our own country "creating conflict"?

American blacks identifying as ADOS has nothing to do with self-hate or hatred of Africa.

 

[Cape Town JHB]

How the fukk is ADOS advocating to be fully American and for economic Reparations in our own country "creating conflict"?

American blacks identifying as ADOS has nothing to do with self-hate or hatred of Africa.

I'm South African but I'm not confused enough to refer to South Africa as 'my country'...Black people collectively own little to nothing here. When you refer t o America/US as your country what exactly are you referring to?

 

[saturn7]

I'm South African but I'm not confused enough to refer to South Africa as 'my country'...Black people collectively own little to nothing here. When you refer t o America/US as your country what exactly are you referring to?

If you and family have roots in South Africa for several generations you absolutely are South African. You have the right to claim the history and culture of that land.

When I and other ADOS state that America (U.S.A) is our home and we shold claim it's because of all of the contributions blacks have made to this country in (in terms of inventions, medicine, militarily, musically, cultural, and being the foundation of the US economy).

We need to stake our claim in America and get redress for all the wrong doings America inflicted upon us.

 

[Cape Town JHB]

once you lay claim on your stake in the USA how will you go about forcing white people to give you what's owed to you?

 

[King Khufu]

I'm South African but I'm not confused enough to refer to South Africa as 'my country'...Black people collectively own little to nothing here. When you refer t o America/US as your country what exactly are you referring to?

South Africa is huge.
Last time I checked there is plenty well to do black kids over there.

 

[Cape Town JHB]

South Africa is huge.
Last time I checked there is plenty well to do black kids over there.

When was that last time you checked?

 

[Cape Town JHB]

If you and family have roots in South Africa for several generations you absolutely are South African. You have the right to claim the history and culture of that land.

When I and other ADOS state that America (U.S.A) is our home and we shold claim it's because of all of the contributions blacks have made to this country in (in terms of inventions, medicine, militarily, musically, cultural, and being the foundation of the US economy).

We need to stake our claim in America and get redress for all the wrong doings America inflicted upon us.

Slaves get to lay claim to the slave plantation profits? Mmmmh

Also did "America" do you wrong or was it global white supremacy/racism?

 

[omnifax]

Slaves get to lay claim to the slave plantation profits? Mmmmh

Also did "America" do you wrong or was it global white supremacy/racism?

Unfortunately you can't litigate against "white supremacy" since it is not an entity. You can however litigate against the U.S. government which is part of the process of reparations.

 

[CreepyMcCreeperson]

Gus needs to do another episode on Black Mirror, and the Striking Vipers episode. There is SO much to breakdown.

 

[saturn7]

Slaves get to lay claim to the slave plantation profits? Mmmmh

Also did "America" do you wrong or was it global white supremacy/racism?

Uhhhh YES. They actually did the work and produced the product that made the profit.

America. Which is a part of global white supremacy but we have to be narrow in scope. We deal with the U.S. government as we are American citizens not global citizens.