Do Atheists truly desire a completly Godless society?

[Turenne]

Atheists always bring up the negatives of religions, because many people claim religion but dont follow it, or interpret it wrong, but in reality the righteous and pious Muslims, Jews and Christians live exemplary lifestyles.

I'd imagine anyone that lived a 'righteous' life has an exemplary lifestyle...

 

[Dirty_Jerz]

he actually was

...the chosen group of who...?

its weird that hitler claimed to be a catholic but had the idealism of a pagan worshipper

believing that the chosen elect of god were rightfully blonde haired blue eyed europeons and that christ comes through their nations bloodline

 

[Hip-Hop-Bulls]

I mean, is it the dream of Atheists to exist in a world where people have no moral code or higher being that they look up to? Most humans are depraved and wicked naturally I believe. If you look on various godless societies like the ancient Roman empire, their way of life was replete will all kinds of heinous and evil behaviours that would make and decent man shudder. From homosexuality, murder, pedofilia, to beastiality it was all fair game and apart of everyday culture.

More modern examples can be seen in the societies of the Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, China. Each of the aformentioned countries were well known godless societies that have numerous examples of outrageous atrocities and human rights violations.

No as to which God is best, that is somethign I cant answer. But it can't be coincidental that societies that have a general basis in religion tend to be more stable and long lasting.

Most humans are naturally wicked? That doesn't even make sense bruh. God is all wise and righteous. Not even white people are naturally wicked. They just tend to do more wicked things because they were taught too and in specific lack melanin in the brain which affects the way they think and see life. One of the main reasons why people are so negative is because everyone's divided.

Think of it like this. Everybody at one time was the same and practiced the natural way of life which is mathematics. Eventually people started living out different cultures, then the different colors of the human family came in, then the religions popped up. Now we're at the point where the dividing is so bad that people represent street blocks and neighborhoods or themselves which is the ultimate isolation.

Everybody has to go back to the natural way of life if peace is to be established. Even the bible says religion is bad . Acts 17:22-23 "Then paul stood in the midst of the areopagus and said, "men of athens, I perceive that in all things you are very religious; for as I was passing through considering the objects of your worship, I even found an altar with this inscription:

TO THE UNKNOWN GOD

Therefore, the one whom you worship without knowing him I proclaim to you:

God, who made the world and everything in it, since he is lord of heaven and earth, DOES NOT dwell in temples made with hands.

That's some deep shyt lol . Now I'm not trying to make anybody give up their religion but we gotta recognize mathematics people. Everything we do is based on knowledge 1st so it makes no sense to base our entire lives on believing in a god to do anything for us.

A good quote is god helps those help themselves.

 

[Mowgli]

saying Eugenics is science is like saying Phrenology is science. You are studying the wrong thing and only the ignorant use it as real science.

Ignorant people run the world then because its obvious eugenics is in practice, globally and scientists assist in implementing it. Its pretty obvious its a practice in the scientific community. I guess this is your first time hearing about it. Then again, you dont know much about science so im glad i could teach you something.

The term eugenics comes from the Greek roots for "good" and "generation" or "origin" and was first used to refer to the "science" of heredity and good breeding in about 1883.

Within 20 years, the word was widely used by scientists who had rediscovered the work of Gregor Mendel. Mendel had meticulously recorded the results of cross-breeding pea plants, and found a very regular statistical pattern for features like height and color. This introduced the concept of genes, opening the field of genetics to a tumultuous century of research. One path of genetic research branched off into the shadows of social theory, and in the first quarter of the twentieth century became immensely popular as eugenics. It was presented as a mathematical science that could be used to predict the traits and behaviors of humans, and in a perfect world, to control human breeding so that people with the best genes would reproduce and thus improve the species. It was an optimistic school of thought with a profound faith in the powers of Science.

The trappings of science, anyway. Even in its day, many people saw that eugenics was a dubious discipline, riddled with inconsistencies. But it was championed by a very prominent and respected biologist, Charles Davenport, and its conclusions told many people what they wanted to hear: that certain "racial stock" was superior to others in such traits as intelligence, hard work, cleanliness, and so on. In this view of human behavior, the work of Sigmund Freud was disregarded, while the ideas of behaviorism were just gaining ground.

Local eugenics societies and groups sprang up around the United States after World War I, with names like the Race Betterment Foundation. The war had given many Americans a greater fear of foreigners, and immigration to the United States was still increasing. In 1923, organizers founded the American Eugenics Society, and it quickly grew to 29 chapters around the country. At fairs and exhibitions, eugenicists spread the word and hosted "fitter family" and "better baby" competitions to award blue ribbons to the finest human stock -- not unlike the awards for prize bull and biggest pumpkin. Not only did eugenicists promote better breeding, they wanted to prevent poor breeding or the risk of it. That meant keeping people with undesireable traits in their heritage (including alcoholism, pauperism, or epilepsy) separate from others or, where law allowed, preventing them from reproducing.

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

Atheists always bring up the negatives of religions, because many people claim religion but dont follow it, or interpret it wrong, but in reality the righteous and pious Muslims, Jews and Christians live exemplary lifestyles.

Religions are impossible to follow 100%, religious folks usually disregard all the shyt that they don't feel like doing... so I don't know where the fukk your "righteous and pious Muslims, Jews and Christians" live but I've never seen one in my entire life. They were usually much more demonic than my Godless self.

 

[acri1]

Ignorant people run the world then because its obvious eugenics is in practice, globally and scientists assist in implementing it. Its pretty obvious its a practice in the scientific community. I guess this is your first time hearing about it. Then again, you dont know much about science so im glad i could teach you something.

The term eugenics comes from the Greek roots for "good" and "generation" or "origin" and was first used to refer to the "science" of heredity and good breeding in about 1883.

Within 20 years, the word was widely used by scientists who had rediscovered the work of Gregor Mendel. Mendel had meticulously recorded the results of cross-breeding pea plants, and found a very regular statistical pattern for features like height and color. This introduced the concept of genes, opening the field of genetics to a tumultuous century of research. One path of genetic research branched off into the shadows of social theory, and in the first quarter of the twentieth century became immensely popular as eugenics. It was presented as a mathematical science that could be used to predict the traits and behaviors of humans, and in a perfect world, to control human breeding so that people with the best genes would reproduce and thus improve the species. It was an optimistic school of thought with a profound faith in the powers of Science.

The trappings of science, anyway. Even in its day, many people saw that eugenics was a dubious discipline, riddled with inconsistencies. But it was championed by a very prominent and respected biologist, Charles Davenport, and its conclusions told many people what they wanted to hear: that certain "racial stock" was superior to others in such traits as intelligence, hard work, cleanliness, and so on. In this view of human behavior, the work of Sigmund Freud was disregarded, while the ideas of behaviorism were just gaining ground.

Local eugenics societies and groups sprang up around the United States after World War I, with names like the Race Betterment Foundation. The war had given many Americans a greater fear of foreigners, and immigration to the United States was still increasing. In 1923, organizers founded the American Eugenics Society, and it quickly grew to 29 chapters around the country. At fairs and exhibitions, eugenicists spread the word and hosted "fitter family" and "better baby" competitions to award blue ribbons to the finest human stock -- not unlike the awards for prize bull and biggest pumpkin. Not only did eugenicists promote better breeding, they wanted to prevent poor breeding or the risk of it. That meant keeping people with undesireable traits in their heritage (including alcoholism, pauperism, or epilepsy) separate from others or, where law allowed, preventing them from reproducing.

A Science Odyssey: People and Discoveries: Eugenics movement reaches its height

Nice copy/paste job, too bad you don't have anything worthwhile to say on the subject.

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

look at the middle east and africa today....religious societies that are unstable

aren't you of Nigerian descent?

how has Islam and Christianity been to your country? lol.....u know the answer

Yes religion hasn't been kind to my country, but in actuality the conflict that exists is deep rooted and intrenched in the history of the country. Absent religion the atrocities that occur would have been far greater.

 

[50CentStan]

Religions are impossible to follow 100%, religious folks usually disregard all the shyt that they don't feel like doing... so I don't know where the fukk your "righteous and pious Muslims, Jews and Christians" live but I've never seen one in my entire life. They were usually much more demonic than my Godless self.

I agree friend, its impossible to follow religion 100%, no one is perfect. Many times the intentions of one has to be pure, and dont come at me with "so and so kills so and so, and has the right intention", because usually they dont, friend. Many lands where Muslims ruled and followed Islam, all three abrahamic religions lived in peace. The people of Lebanon are a great example, the turmoil usually starts because of 3rd parties and outside factors. (palestine used to be peaceful before the British mandate, and then they created israel and look what happened)

I'd imagine anyone that lived a 'righteous' life has an exemplary lifestyle...

I agree, but true righteousness can only be found by following the book of god, no offense to atheists but if an atheist is righteous he lives a 80-85% exemplary lifestyle because of certain limits he/she does not have. If a religious person lives a righteous lifestyle, he/she lives a 90-95% exemplary lifestyle because of certain limits he/she has.

what is the correct way to interpret a religion?

That is a question everyone must ask themselves, many people interpret religion the way the WANT it to be, when in reality they know the truth.



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I hope no one is offended, that is not my purpose, friends.

 

[Mowgli]

A Science Odyssey: People and Discoveries: Eugenics movement reaches its height

Nice copy/paste job, too bad you don't have anything worthwhile to say on the subject.

I wasnt acting like i made it up. Its sad that people like you were going to let his trash statements ride and actually call me dumb. I guess atheists dont like information, they just like the perception of being right. Pathetic and weak.

 

[Bud Bundy]

Ignorant people run the world then because its obvious eugenics is in practice, globally and scientists assist in implementing it. Its pretty obvious its a practice in the scientific community. I guess this is your first time hearing about it. Then again, you dont know much about science so im glad i could teach you something.

The term eugenics comes from the Greek roots for "good" and "generation" or "origin" and was first used to refer to the "science" of heredity and good breeding in about 1883.

Within 20 years, the word was widely used by scientists who had rediscovered the work of Gregor Mendel. Mendel had meticulously recorded the results of cross-breeding pea plants, and found a very regular statistical pattern for features like height and color. This introduced the concept of genes, opening the field of genetics to a tumultuous century of research. One path of genetic research branched off into the shadows of social theory, and in the first quarter of the twentieth century became immensely popular as eugenics. It was presented as a mathematical science that could be used to predict the traits and behaviors of humans, and in a perfect world, to control human breeding so that people with the best genes would reproduce and thus improve the species. It was an optimistic school of thought with a profound faith in the powers of Science.

The trappings of science, anyway. Even in its day, many people saw that eugenics was a dubious discipline, riddled with inconsistencies. But it was championed by a very prominent and respected biologist, Charles Davenport, and its conclusions told many people what they wanted to hear: that certain "racial stock" was superior to others in such traits as intelligence, hard work, cleanliness, and so on. In this view of human behavior, the work of Sigmund Freud was disregarded, while the ideas of behaviorism were just gaining ground.

Local eugenics societies and groups sprang up around the United States after World War I, with names like the Race Betterment Foundation. The war had given many Americans a greater fear of foreigners, and immigration to the United States was still increasing. In 1923, organizers founded the American Eugenics Society, and it quickly grew to 29 chapters around the country. At fairs and exhibitions, eugenicists spread the word and hosted "fitter family" and "better baby" competitions to award blue ribbons to the finest human stock -- not unlike the awards for prize bull and biggest pumpkin. Not only did eugenicists promote better breeding, they wanted to prevent poor breeding or the risk of it. That meant keeping people with undesireable traits in their heritage (including alcoholism, pauperism, or epilepsy) separate from others or, where law allowed, preventing them from reproducing.

Eugenics have been out of favor for years. That is why i compared it to Phrenology. Sure back in the day it was used heavily but it has been disproved much like Phrenology. You know since the we are all part of the human race Eugenics does not make much sense.

 

[Mowgli]

Eugenics have been out of favor for years. That is why i compared it to Phrenology. Sure back in the day it was used heavily but it has been disproved much like Phrenology. You know since the we are all part of the human race Eugenics does not make much sense.

First it wasnt science, now its out of favor with the scientific community. You dont know what you're talking about and just like to trollknowlege. Please show a little more integrity in the future. You make it dificult to dialogue with you like a man.

 

[Bud Bundy]

First it wasnt science, now its out of favor with the scientific community. You dont know what you're talking about and just like to trollknowlege. Please show a little more integrity in the future. You make it dificult to dialogue with you like a man.

I never said that. I said it was science like Pheronogly is science.

 

[Mr Uncle Leroy]

who created man? who created God?
who created whoever created him?
planets?
is life really an illusion...
if everything above earth besides nature is manmade, who created man?

bu bu bu i cnt see him/her so God dont exist.

 

[Mowgli]

who created man? who created God?
who created whoever created him?
planets?
is life really an illusion...
if everything above earth besides nature is manmade, who created man?

bu bu bu i cnt see him/her so God dont exist.

I hate thoughts i cant fathom.

Heres an easy one. Why are space explorers concerned about visiting another galaxy when they dont even know whats in ours.

 

[Bud Bundy]

I hate thoughts i cant fathom.

Heres an easy one. Why are space explorers concerned about visiting another galaxy when they dont even know whats in ours.

you high?

people are more concerned with mars homie.