DMX Breaks Down When His Son Checks Him! + Iyanla: Fix My Life Starring DMX (Full)

[theworldismine13]

That's not the same as saying stop or else. His son didn't say "hey dad I'm gonna work with you and help you stop so we can have a healthy relationship" and the lines would be don't call me or come get me when your high. That's setting lines setting goals and still offering support.

he said "dad you leave this interview and go get clean, then we can talk" that's not about helping or conditional love. He was just scolding his dad.

but again, its not clear that scolding somebody and placing conditions on someone doesn't work, what is your source for this?

his son basically said, i love you but i cant fuk with you, i dont really see how you can fault him for that, now when you show me a link to a professional that says its wrong to say that then i will change my mind

that's ironic coming from you.

I'm sure he's asked him to stop before. My problem isn't with him asking his dad to stop or setting ultimatums. My gripe is with him taking his dad on TV to showcase his demons in order to do those things, under the guise of "helping" him. He could have told him off and gave him an ultimatum without misleading him and attacking him in front of the whole world.

well like i said, i actually agree with some criticism of the son, i think he should not have done it on tv, that lady was not the best person to have there and i think he was selfish to a certain extent, he was probably just tired of being embarrassed and he was too weak to confront dmx himself

but in the end i think he is the victim and he has the right to set rules, he doesnt owe dmx unconditional love, yeah it sounds harsh but that is the way it is, he has to set his lines and be his own man

 

[MeachTheMonster]

but again, its not clear that scolding somebody and placing conditions on someone doesn't work, what is your source for this?

his son basically said, i love you but i cant fuk with you, i dont really see how you can fault him for that, now when you show me a link to a professional that says its wrong to say that then i will change my mind



well like i said, i actually agree with some criticism of the son, i think he should not have done it on tv, that lady was not the best person to have there and i think he was selfish to a certain extent, he was probably just tired of being embarrassed and he was too weak to confront dmx himself

but in the end i think he is the victim and he has the right to set rules, he doesnt owe dmx unconditional love, yeah it sounds harsh but that is the way it is, he has to set his lines and be his own man

Read this.
Enabling versus love: Families and addiction |

Withdrawal – When you decide that it would much easier to avoid your relative or loved one in hopes of making them see why you’re avoiding them. This only perpetuates the addiction.
Blame – Instead of understanding you get angry at your loved one for not trying hard enough to control his or her use and tell them it’s all their fault.
Control – Basically you deciding in your own form of therapy where you then assume responsibility for the person’s addiction by disposing his or her drugs or cutting off their supply.

What the son did was reinforce the addictive behavior. Not help him.

 

[Czerka]

wheres the full interview?

 

[theworldismine13]

Read this.
Enabling versus love: Families and addiction |


What the son did was reinforce the addictive behavior. Not help him.

hmm sort of, that isnt exactly what the son did, my guess is that the son was withdrawing before and was already avoiding his father, what his son did is give him an ultimatum, which is different, good find tho

here is a better one
Addict Help: Relationship with an Addict | Canadian Alcohol and Drug Rehab Placement Office

Sometimes, regardless of the position that an addict takes, you will find it is time to set limits, make rules to help maintain your own self respect. If general discussion about the issues fails to bring a resolution, you might have to give an ultimatum.

If certain behavior does not stop, then there will be consequences.

Sometimes people use tactics to try and get others to comply with their wishes and do what it is that they want. When there is mutual respect for the other person and yourself, you have to be prepared for the fact that the other party might choose a different option.

Giving the other party real freedom to choose and face the consequences of his choice is about respect for the other person.

If you make an ultimatum and the addict doesn’t comply, then regardless of your feelings, you have to follow through and do what you have said you will do. If you simply leave things as they were before, it begins to look like co-dependence. Self respect and the relationship suffers if both parties take the easy way out, and fail to negotiate change.

 

[Czerka]

who has the full episode?

 

[spliz]

First off,....
For Ronda to be black and treat dmx.
Like he was some white cat with a drug problem.
all because he was trying to chase fitting into some type of status was complete bullshyt.
Not to mention,...
Her to just ignore dmx's personal history.
When real talk, dmx is a level headed passionate real actualized experienced dude.
who had just experienced to much for a guy like that with that type of spirit to bear.
It is obvious, he came to meet with her because she came with a rep for being an aid.
Yet, her help by numbers and template approach could never help dmx.
Dmx is one of the few black men.
You would have to listen and craft an exact personalized plan to aid him.
For her to try her standard help template and graft it onto dmx was completely unprofessional.
Plus, a violation of ethics.


Art Barr

Real talk...

 

[TheJet]

His son handled it well but i think they should have met in private not on the tv show

They shoulda had hynief come talk to him

 

[dtownreppin214]

Iyanla to DMX: "Do You Want to Live Your Life as a Clean Man?" - Iyanla Fix My Life - OWN - YouTube

who has the full episode?

link is in the OP.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

hmm sort of, that isnt exactly what the son did, my guess is that the son was withdrawing before and was already avoiding his father, what his son did is give him an ultimatum, which is different, good find tho

here is a better one
Addict Help: Relationship with an Addict | Canadian Alcohol and Drug Rehab Placement Office

Look, I'm not gonna play the back and forth link game with you. Even judging by your link the boy didn't do the right thing. Setting limits is not the same as removing all emotional support. A limit would be "I'm not giving you money anymore" or "I'm not letting you stay here anymore. But a limit isn't "go stop crack on your own and holler at me when you're done". You NEVER remove emotional support from an addict, and that's all his son has to give him. It could be the one time when your phone call will stop the addict from OD'ing but you didn't answer the call because you were upset with them. That's selfish and counterproductive in helping them beat the addiction. And also from your website
Should a Family Support a Drug Addict? | Canadian Alcohol and Drug Rehab Placement Office

Support in the way of unconditional love and help to get off of the drugs is highly encouraged for loved ones of a drug addict. However, financial support and becoming co-dependant is not a good way to help yourself, or your loved one.

 

[theworldismine13]

Look, I'm not gonna play the back and forth link game with you. Even judging by your link the boy didn't do the right thing. Setting limits is not the same as removing all emotional support. A limit would be "I'm not giving you money anymore" or "I'm not letting you stay here anymore. But a limit isn't "go stop crack on your own and holler at me when you're done". You NEVER remove emotional support from an addict, and that's all his son has to give him. It could be the one time when your phone call will stop the addict from OD'ing but you didn't answer the call because you were upset with them. That's selfish and counterproductive in helping them beat the addiction. And also from your website
Should a Family Support a Drug Addict? | Canadian Alcohol and Drug Rehab Placement Office

my mans gave his father a pound and a hug and said i love you but i cant really fuk with you, that's love, that's emotional support

 

[Tommy Tuffnuts]

just watched it. damn i guess if u be too hard on ya kids they grow up soft.

 

[Loose]

how is everyone sure dmx's son is gay? the nikka just looks extra feminine to me i didnt get any gay vibes. I can feel his son's pain it's all dmx's fault for not showing his son how to be a man.

 

[Art Barr]

i agree this lady was not the best person, i think the son didnt have the strength to confront his father so he needed her

but im pretty sure any other professional would have said the same things she was saying

A professional would have listened to dmx's origin.
Not cut him off and work a template bases solution plan.
Anyone who knows of dmx and I am by not means a dmx fan.
Yet, I know that man has endured pain on a level most may never know.
For her to just gloss over him being that open.
Was like she said fukk your issues.
I am her to get some drama stirring ratings.
Dmx, deserved better than that.
This is a guy anyone in the half knows he is a genuine guy.
Yet, he is a survivor.
Dmx, and black rob are two of the most tortured from that era.
Neither if they are open to help should have been treated like how Ronda treated dmx.

Just her, being like the drugs are what are causing the issues, was complete bullshyt.
Especially in dmx's case as we all know.
If dmx is using drugs.
It is an an escape and a calm down solution to all the victimized pain he has endured.
For her to just say fukk your history.
Like some he-man male hater club president.
Was uncalled for and a full exposal of the type of fraud this chick is.
I literally has to stop the vid on numerous occassions.
To ask myself,...
Like yo,.....
Does this Ronda chick know anything about kids.
Especially black male from impoverished backgrounds.
Not to mention,...
A background as severely harsh as dmx's unknown full history.
It was obvious,...ronda is not fully who she says she is.
Nor, is she as good as people have given her acclaim to being.



Art Barr

 

[Art Barr]

-DMX (Slippin)


How did this thread go 184 posts without these lyrics being quoted is beyond me.

You can cite the lyrics.
Which are good for being simply optimistic.
Yet, dmx has had his spirit destroyed as early as seven years of age.
Maybe even older.
So, I can never condemn him for not living up to his own rhyme in this circumstance.
Dmx, has a history of being victimized, on numerous occassions.
Which take a decade to get over at the least for one incident.
When you have immediate high quality premium care.
Dmx, never received that immediate high quality premium care.
Plus, he is from the Gen.
That is distinctly one of the reasons why this culture was created.
So, dmx is not to he scrutinized under normal circumstances so harshly for his actions or behavior.
Dmx lived a consistently victimized life gwey early on.
With no level of care,...
That should always be taken into extreme consideration,....
When, discussing dmx and trying to provide solutions or criticism.
Something,...ronda was not considerate to at all.
Ronda acted like dmx's wife and his son were victimized on a level.
That exceeds dmx's level of consistent abuse.
Which is the exact reason why there is a situation to begin with.
Ronda could have easily fixed the issue by accurately addressing the source.
A source that originally started at the origins and was disresepcted to the highest.
By a so-called Yoruba princess,...
Which showed she was on complete bullshyt.
Plus, a huge fukking phoney.


Art Barr

 

[FaTaL]

i cant imagine trying to argue with dmx in his prime, nikka is a has been and straight dominating